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    I can get close with amp and tone controls, but is there a jazz box effect?
    I'm using single coils. I have a Heritage, but don't use it when playing out.
    Wondering if there is any device anyone has used that can add some of that mellow "wooden" sound to the coils?

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    Mount your single coils on a jazz box.

    No device is going to do that, it's all about the guitar.

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    Doc is right. You can get jazzy sounds out of a solid body for sure... but if you want that hollowbody sound... there is really only way to get it.

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    I can get close with amp and tone controls, but is there a jazz box effect?-article-0-0c018411000005dc-653_468x286_zpsdtkj2orn-jpg

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    I can get close with amp and tone controls, but is there a jazz box effect?-file_r17417-png

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    Besides choosing the right strings, pick, technique etc. I find boosting the lower midrange with a (semi)parametric eq helps a lot.

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    Man, tough crowd. Howzabout dis?

    True-Tone Bridge - Sadowsky Guitars - Online Store

    And a set of La Bella Black Nylon Tape Wounds or White Nylon Tape Wounds?

    Could come close.

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    This really doesn't sound very jazzy or hollow jazzbox at all:


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    Quote Originally Posted by scottkerr
    I can get close with amp and tone controls, but is there a jazz box effect?
    I'm using single coils. I have a Heritage, but don't use it when playing out.
    Wondering if there is any device anyone has used that can add some of that mellow "wooden" sound to the coils?
    There's not enough information provided to give you any advice. Single coils on what type of guitar? What type of single coils? Single coil pickups sound different if they are Strat, Tele, P90, CC, etc. They're different on a plank guitar than a semi-hollow guitar. If you're playing a Strat or a Tele you can get a great jazz tone (listen to Ed Bickert, for example) but you're really not going to be able to duplicate the voice of an archtop guitar. There are too many things happening (reflected wave fronts within the guitar interacting with the pickup at different times milliseconds apart, resonant frequencies, etc.) that don't happen the same way in a solidbody.

    That being said, it also depends on the situation- I have a carvetop with a modified Classic 57 floater and I have a Tele with Dimarzio Area T pickups; it can be hard to distinguish which is which on recordings from the audience perspective once the bass, cymbals and horns are going. Most of the nuance in tone gets covered up.

    If you really want the archtop tone when you play out, play out with an archtop. I haul my carvetop to gigs all the time, more often than the Tele (I use the latter mainly for louder gigs where I am concerned about feedback or sometimes just for a change). With either guitar I just look for the tone that makes the the happiest at the time (and that may change over the course of the gig- brighter, darker, etc.).

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    A good part of it comes from the bridge I think. An Gibson L5s does sound like an archtop but with less "body". Guitars just sound good though man, it'd be boring if everyone had the same sound. Can't make a Strat sound like an Es-175, but it'll still sound really great in its own right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellarstar
    A good part of it comes from the bridge I think. An Gibson L5s does sound like an archtop but with less "body". Guitars just sound good though man, it'd be boring if everyone had the same sound. Can't make a Strat sound like an Es-175, but it'll still sound really great in its own right.
    That's a curious statement. Did you mean L5s in general? or a specific L5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRS
    That's a curious statement. Did you mean L5s in general? or a specific L5?
    I meant literally the L5"S" the solidbody version of the L5 CES

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    This really doesn't sound very jazzy or hollow jazzbox at all:

    Wildwoods demos tend to be on the bright side .. He's a great player, but maybe he's lost some of his high frequency hearing over the years

    Or maybe he's trying to sell archtops to guys who play strats or teles

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    though, as others have mentioned, it probably won't happen. i've used eq pedals (or an rc booster, in my case) for an "instant jazz" sound, but the right guitar helps so much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    Wildwoods demos tend to be on the bright side .. He's a great player, but maybe he's lost some of his high frequency hearing over the years

    Or maybe he's trying to sell archtops to guys who play strats or teles
    I think the shirt tells you all you need to know.

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    greg koch, bless his heart, is kinda in the gregor hilden pile for me- i learn next to nothing about a guitar from their demos. greg is too idiosyncratic of a player and gregor makes everything sound the same. they both kinda go through similar licks every time out, but in a more entertaining than helpful way. i get that its tough to do and they use the same set up for every guitar, but still. greg's fun to hang out with, but i'm not getting much of a sense of how the guitars would work for me.

    we've probably gone over this a billion times here. great player, but this clearly isn't their target market (though it kinda should be). as noted above, it's unlikely they string these things up with heavy rounds or even flat strings, even though that's sort of the point. then again, these things can do you than you think (or would like them to), so there. take that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    Wildwoods demos tend to be on the bright side .. He's a great player, but maybe he's lost some of his high frequency hearing over the years

    Or maybe he's trying to sell archtops to guys who play strats or teles

    Actually if you listen to it, not only is it bright on the top but its almost booming/swelling in the bass. Not a very balanced sound, from what I can hear.
    Last edited by Archie; 04-13-2015 at 05:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchtopHeaven
    Actually if you listen to it, not only is it bright on the top but its almost booming/swelling in the bass. Not a very balanced sound, from what I can hear.

    I'll have to listen it on my home system rather than my tiny laptop speakers or the cheap earphones I have at work


    As for the shirt .... hard to tell what that means .... Wildwoods in Colorado ...... lots of people wear western stuff now and then when you live out here in the western states ... so it's not as if he's dressing like that in London or New York City

    and there really is a difference between Western music and Country music .... I didn't quite realize that until I moved to Arizona

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    The bridge is a Dimarzio P408. Great response with large useful range in the tone control and volume. Also the amp is an AC30C with a useful treble cut on the master. All the comments about the nature of the guitar make sense of course.