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moi Holst :-)
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04-05-2015 11:36 AM
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Jabs, do you have a brother on the site?
Originally Posted by Scramblemonkey
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Any 175.
165 too..
JD
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I love this one....thinner than standard body makes it more comfortable.

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A pic of my Eastman John Pisano AR 380 ce. Really happy with this one!
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I own a Peerless Monarch 16 and I'm very happy with it. It is a beautifully crafted solid wood instrument that plays very well and sounds gorgeous (although I am considering a future upgrade from the Epiphone Classic 57 pickup to something a little better). For $1395.00, it's a keeper.
I believe that the Monarch 16 is only available from Guitars-n-Jazz in Summit, NJ. The model is, according to their website, "exclusive" to them.
Highly recommended as an affordable, high quality archtop.
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Don't know anything about the AF-120, but I own an AF-125 and it's a nice guitar. They were $1,000 w/case when available new. There are quite a few available used for around $700-750. A good value for not a lot of money.
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Doc Dosco still lists them on his website, so not certain how "exclusive" to Lou they are...
Originally Posted by jazz.fred
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Not sure regarding "exclusivity". But, that's what it says on Lou's website. In truth, his website could use some maintenance and new content.
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Yeah, it's all kinda weird. As I understand it, Doc was the "player rep" and/or "endorser" for Peerless and so he is able to get and sell product. I bought my Imperial from him and will continue to purchase from him. I guess Lou is the "authorized" Peerless dealer or something like that; he seems like a pretty good guy, I bought my Eastman 905-7 from him. I do think that there is that thin bodied Palen 7 string built by Peerless for Lou (there also have 6 strings in that line) that I believe is an exclusive, like a "house brand", but I might be wrong on that.
Originally Posted by jazz.fred
I always thought it might be interesting to be a dealer for one of the archtop companies as a retirement gig, but the more I talk to my friends in the retail instrument business the tougher it seems to be...
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shts dope!
Originally Posted by scramblemonkey
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oops. my fingers went crazy.
meant to say i second you on the benedetto bravo! it's the nicest guitar i've ever owned. just perfect in so many ways. i never thought i would find that real archtop sound without strapping a 20lb tree trunk around my neck.
the design is not flashy, but in person it is very impressive. understated. poised. excellent. all that.
i have others, and they are nice to look at, but the bravo is the only one i play.
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Love my Benedetto 16B !
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The gretsch 6120 is listed above, but the same body was used for the streamliner and clipper, at least in the 1950s. Less money, and more appropriate for jazz.
I had a '57 streamliner a few years ago. Dearmond single coil and a very interesting tone circuit; just about every position on the tone control gave you a useable tone.
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My old ES-125 fits the bill!
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I've got to say, as time goes on, I'm really digging my Gibson 1959 VOS Es-175 and Godin Jazz. These two have become my go to axes because the 16" size feels comfortable and they're both light, sound great in their own way, and play very well.
I have really come to appreciate Godin's approach to laminate tops. They project more and retain more acoustic properties than many hand-carved solid tops I have played. I know that's a big statement, but their tops are incredibly thin--one-third to half the thickness of most solid tops. And they still seem to be very strong and feedback resistant.
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1928 Gibson L-5
2014 Slaman ES-150/250 "Sister #1"
1933 Gibson L-12
And not the focus of this photo, but visible on the stand, 1963 Gibson ES-175.
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Fender D'Aquisto Elite. OOP, of course, but they definitely come up from time to time.
I have a "piano black" one just like this from 1984 (my first archtop actually).
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One of my favorites. GREAT sounding and playing.
Originally Posted by ooglybong
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Hey R, can you describe the difference between your L5 and L12? Not cosmetics; I mean sound, and playing/feel.
Originally Posted by rpguitar
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I'll try. Let's start with feel. The L5 has a smooth, gentle D neck shape. It's the one considered the "best" and most elusive carve of the old 16" L-series guitars, offered supposedly only in the late 20s for a year or so. The L12 has what one might call a soft V, not at all clunky or pronounced, just a bit of a V profile. It is also very comfortable. But the L5 takes the cake here.
Originally Posted by Woody Sound
I think the L12 has a tighter radius, probably 10". The L5 feels like 12" or more. The L12 is ever so slightly lighter, a few ounces maybe ('hog neck vs. maple?). The L5 nut and/or string separation is a wee bit wider.
The L5 has more depth to the bass response, and more "thrum" in the strum. Its notes are very pure and even - it feels at times like a classical guitar; it's a very refined instrument. It's a little louder, too. The L12 has a brighter, crisper sound, and actually has a bit more overtones in the treble range. It's a bit less refined in the low mids and basses. It also strums well. They are both super cool.
If I had to choose, I'd pick the L5. But I'll never sell the L12. It was a broken mess when I bought it for cheap on eBay, and I and a trusted repair person nursed it back into a lovely instrument. Because of its physical flaws, I'll never recover what it's worth, and it's very much a sentimental favorite too.
The L12 is responsible for my owning the L5. I first brought the L12 into Mandolin Brothers to let Stan Jay assess its condition and damage, and it was only because of that visit that I wandered into the other room and saw the L5 on a stand - not ready for sale yet. So I guess they were meant to be together.Last edited by rpguitar; 06-06-2015 at 08:23 PM.
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