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I have been playing Gibsons for 43 years and never had a binding issue ever. Just got a 2013 ES175 and the binding on the neck is cracked at every fret. I have seen Gibsons on eBay with neck binding fret cracks also.
Just wondering what causes this ? East coast cold ? I live in Calif. and even with re-frets my neck binding has never cracked.
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01-17-2015 05:25 PM
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fret sprout due to dryness
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I had a 2011 HR fusion III in 2012 with it
A Tal Farlow 1996 with it
and a Gibson Es-175 1996 with it.
I have also had many old Japanese Gibson copies with nibs and never seen a single issue, all from the 70's. Also on all the ones I have seen that weren't mine, not a single issue. All the truss rods worked too and the necks were very stable. Not so on Gibson guitars. I cnt speak for heritage on this matter.
It is humidity etc but then that effects all guitars, it seems however that cracking in this way only effects Gibson and Heritage because i assume they don't cut the frets properly.
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Oh my god. Now I see where this is going.
I currently own 5 Gibsons and none of them have this issue. I gave the benefit of the doubt but now I see. Some people jump on opportunities to bash Gibson. It's so blatant.
Joe D
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The CEO of Gibson has a Witch on retainer to cast spells on people who complain or return too many Gibsons. You been Hoo Doo'd!
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I had a 1993 L5 reissue (for 2 days) that had cracking all over the lacquer on the binding.
It also had a twisted neck so who knows what kind of torture it saw. Wintermoon nailed it: probably came from the fretboard shrinking and the fret tang pushing out.Last edited by spiral; 01-17-2015 at 07:59 PM.
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Its a Thread talking about binding cracks, what do you expect?
Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
Its well known that Gibson suffer from them. Since two Gibson owners have had it and you haven't, thats 2/3
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L5 re-issue, who made that? Originally Posted by spiral
I had a late 90's L5 reissue (for 2 days) that had cracking all over the lacquer on the binding:
It also had a twisted neck so who knows what kind of torture it saw. Wintermoon nailed it: probably came from the fretboard shrinking and the fret tang pushing out.
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Originally Posted by docbop
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I live in the driest climate known to mankind and none of my Gibsons have that.
Danny W.
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Gibson. Originally Posted by ArchtopHeaven
Update: made in 1993.
@Joe DeNisco. I've owned many lacquer guitars old and new and this Gibson was the only one that had this issue. I had a 2007 Gibson that had the lacquer puckering around the logo as well. Not bashing or slander intended, just relaying actual data.Last edited by spiral; 01-17-2015 at 08:03 PM.
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Here we go again!
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Originally Posted by Danny W.
LOL. Do you get a lot of gigs in the Atacama Desert?
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Not bashing at all just wondering what causes binding fret cracks. I oil my fretboards once a year maybe that is the reason mine don't crack. I know a lot of people here don't believe in oiling fretboards but if done right I think it is beneficial. You just don't want to pickle them in oil. Wipe on wipe off. Not saying that is the reason my bindings don't crack. Just my theory. Might just be where I live.
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Doesnt look like Gibson. All my Gibsons have binding next to the frets. I'm no expert but... Originally Posted by ArchtopHeaven
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Vinny, you seem like a really good guy and I feel bad that you might have gotten taken advantage off. Honestly, if I spent 2750 and got screwed, I would pay the guy a visit. And I would become unscrewed real fast. That's not just words, because I've done it before. Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
All guitars require the proper care and temperature/humidity control. It just seems like people expect Gibsons to be impervious to the affects of poor care. They are not.
I really hope it works out for you.
joe d.
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That L5 with the cracks probably had a re-fret hence the no binding nibs.
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Ya beat me to it. But, we all know what Danny meant. Originally Posted by Flyin' Brian
LOL. Do you get a lot of gigs in the Atacama Desert?
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Thank you Joe. Believe me if I didn't live so far away I would be pounding on their door come Monday morning. In Gibson's defense it is a real nice 175 but when I am told it is perfect that to me means no cracked binding and checked cutaway. Absolutely not a Gibson issue but a improper storage issue.
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Good call. Just looked up photos from other reissues and saw the binding overlap: Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
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My Gibson Les Paul Standard 1992 has small binding cracks but so is my 1995 Epiphone Joe Pass (obviously no nibs).
I always thought it was caused by the crazy weather change we have here in Quebec and the dryness caused by electrical baseboard heating...
It doesn't really bother me as I don't feel it while playing.
My 2005 Gibson SG and 2003 Epiphone Regent have not developed any binding cracks so far but I got them much later...
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Binding cracks at every fret are supposed to be desirable and part of the VOS finish as I was told by one of the big Gibson dealers here in Germany when I returned a brand new 330 VOS for, amongst others, exactly that reason.
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Did yours have an amazingly sticky neck too, that got covered in fingerprints and gunk in about 1 second? Originally Posted by Drifter
I had one of those, sounded great but I don't see it lasting more than a decade. I don't think the woods are good or properly dried. The neck on mine had already started to go off, I sold it quickly for next to nothing.
I think the same person then put it on ebay about 2 weeks later for about £600 than he bought it from me, where it still sits. He tested it in person, I would only sell it on inspection.
Funny how many VOS you see hit the market as soon as they come out and how many issues they have.
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No, mine wasn't sticky. The neck felt good although the wood seemed a little wavy as if not properly carved or carved by hand by a drunken luthier. The biggest problem however was a rediculously high action but the bridge couldn't be lowered because the bridge pickup was in the way. I could have removed the shim but I just didn't agree with a construction like this.
What do you mean by 'the neck started to go off'? Did the neck come loose and needed to be reset?
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I noticed the sticky lacquer also on the VOS models. Gibson has advertised it as part of the VOS antique feel of a true vintage guitar. I am sorry but I just don't get all this VOS craze going on. When I pay thousands for a guitar I want it looking new and shine like a new penny. A side note and good news IMO the regular Gibson ES175 is advertised back on their 2015 website so post : Gibson discontinues regular ES175 : that I started may very well be untrue and Gibson may start making them again though none have been made for 2 years now. I guess we just have to wait and let this VOS craze run it's course. I guess it is very popular with the Les Paul fans.
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