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    Hi
    I want a jazz guitar because I am playing jazz, I don't what to decide! Help me!
    I tried the lgb300 and I was pretty disappointed because the epiphone broadway sounds better.
    I read online that "the loar" are good (280), also joe pass model the korean made.
    or eastman but I heard loads of problems with these.
    I also consider the new Epiphone es 175 premimum because the pickups, but I dont like the finish sides and back they did to sunburst...
    What to decied? Is there more models the I can look for?
    Thank You

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    Here's a bit of self serving but great advice. The Washburn j3 is in my opinion the best sub $500 option out there. In fact, it may be a great option at any price. I got one on eBay right now. In any case, good luck and have with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    Here's a bit of self serving but great advice. The Washburn j3 is in my opinion the best sub $500 option out there. In fact, it may be a great option at any price. I got one on eBay right now. In any case, good luck and have with it.
    Thank you, is this a big guitar? Because the epi broadway looks very big on me...
    Last edited by dvirulu; 11-09-2014 at 05:25 AM.

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    Find an old Samick made Epiphone Joe Pass that had its electronics upgraded and got a professional setup and that will be difficult to beat for 500+$. I really love my 1995 JP with its smaller 16 inches bout and 3 inches thick body it makes for a very comfortable archtop, compared the 17 inches Regent (or Broadway) for instance.

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    Alright thank you, What do you say about ibanez models 70s? , there is an es 175 copy of ibanez from the 70s, but it cost more, do you think it worth it? like 1100 dollars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvirulu
    Thank you, is this a big guitar? Because the epi broadway looks very big on me...
    The Lower Bout is 16". Thickness is 3-7/8"

    JD

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    What exactly is your budget? I had exactly the same dilemma because what I really wanted was a Gibson 175 but they are expensive so I looked at various Ibanez guitars. Eventually figuref if I spent 800 pounds on an Ibanez I Would still want a Gibson 175 at some point and would end up buying twice so I went for a used Gibson 175 for 1750. I figured this was saving Money in the long run!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    The Lower Bout is 16". Thickness is 3-7/8"

    JD
    The Broadway is 17" and has a 25.5" neck. Next to the Joe Pass which is 16"/24.75", it is a monster.

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    If you like an Epiphone Broadway then get an Epiphone Broadway. A 16" lower bout archtop will sound different to a 17" archtop. Not worse, just different. You may like it. You may not.

    Check out one of the current Ibanez sub-$500 archtops with a laminate spruce top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    If you like an Epiphone Broadway then get an Epiphone Broadway. A 16" lower bout archtop will sound different to a 17" archtop. Not worse, just different. You may like it. You may not.

    Check out one of the current Ibanez sub-$500 archtops with a laminate spruce top.
    The problem that broadway looks on me very big,the budjet is now 1000 dollars. Thank you all

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    With a budget of $1000 you could look at used eastmans, they seem to be really popular around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick1994
    With a budget of $1000 you could look at used eastmans, they seem to be really popular around here.
    I thought about it, but I read online that there are problems with those and it is depend if the piece is good or not and than need to fix it.
    and also I don't have in my country cheap eastman, only the highest price. and in ebay there is only one seller of eastman to my budjet but the shipping is like 320 dollars and before tax, so it is not effective.
    Do you know more guitar that I can look for?
    Thank you.

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    Have a look at the Ibanez Artstar range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Para
    Have a look at the Ibanez Artstar range.
    I don't know about the ibanez because I tried the lgb300 and the epi broadway sounds to me a lot better than the lgb300...

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    A thousand bucks will get you an old GB10 which is a very small guitar

    I second that Washburns make for nice guitars.... Just saw a Washburn J6 Montgomery for 350 bucks

    (I use an Ibanez AF75(the one in my picture) and I gotta say that's a whole lotta Jazz for just $290)

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    Wow! a $1200 dollar guitar sounds better than a $4500 to you, I wish I had your ears would certainly save me a lot of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Para
    Wow! a $1200 dollar guitar sounds better than a $4500 to you, I wish I had your ears would certainly save me a lot of money
    Ha ha, I meant to the lgb300 the cheaper but broadway is definately lower and i think that the broadway is just better sound, my problem with it that it looks on me very big... ):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marwin Moody
    A thousand bucks will get you an old GB10 which is a very small guitar

    I second that Washburns make for nice guitars.... Just saw a Washburn J6 Montgomery for 350 bucks

    (I use an Ibanez AF75(the one in my picture) and I gotta say that's a whole lotta Jazz for just $290)
    Thank you, I actually really thought about the af 75, will see...

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    These are the decisions you need to make when buying an archtop:

    - Do you want a 17, 16, or -16" bout instrument
    - Do you want a 3" depth instrument, or smaller
    - Do you want a 25.5 or 24.75" scale length
    - Do you want a routed pickup, or a floating pickup
    - Do you want a carved or laminate top
    - What's the most you want to spend

    Honestly, after that everything is just cosmetics and slight adjustments for tone. I haven't noticed a huge difference between the various guitars I've played in that price range whether they were Ibanez, Fender, Godin, Eastman, etc. Your choice of strings, picks and amps is going to have a massive impact on your tone, too, so it's almost impossible to tell exactly how the instrument will sound in the show-room.

    In my experience with friends/students, a 17" guitar is rough if you're significantly under 6' tall. A 24.75" scale is better for people with smaller hands, and I'd stay away from a 3" body depth if you're a smaller person, too. Routed pickups will have a more classic jazz tone, and the floaters will give you a more acoustic sound.

    In your price range you probably won't have to make a decision about carved versus laminate top, because they'll all be laminate.

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    The godin kingpin is a solid choice for many on this forum. Also the epiphone joe pass is a very popular choice and a great starter guitar that can grow with you if you want to later invest in better pickups, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    Here's a bit of self serving but great advice. The Washburn j3 is in my opinion the best sub $500 option out there. In fact, it may be a great option at any price. I got one on eBay right now. In any case, good luck and have with it.
    Cosign. Played one awhile back and it felt really good. The action was nice and low and it sounded nice plugged in. Why didn't I buy it? I already own a Heritage 575 and a Washburn HB 35 so I didn't need another guitar in that range or size. But, I can say with confidence that the Washburn J3 is a great buy and imo, a better buy than the ES-175. I also gotta swing another vote for the Epi Joe Pass Emperor, that thing is gorgeous.
    Last edited by Broyale; 11-10-2014 at 06:49 PM.

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    I've played a few Washburn guitars and they were surprisingly good, another is Cort of which I have a J.Triggs model, thinner single cut (1.75" thick like a 335) , nice tone. The Joe Pass is real hard to beat if you get an older one.

    What ECJ said are also statements of fact in my experience.

    "Honestly, after that everything is just cosmetics and slight adjustments for tone. I haven't noticed a huge difference between the various guitars I've played in that price range whether they were Ibanez, Fender, Godin, Eastman, etc. Your choice of strings, picks and amps is going to have a massive impact on your tone, too"

    The only place my opinion would differ is I have yet to play a Godin that was even remotely playable as they come from the factory, horrible setups and I don't like their "finish".

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    If I were in your position I would consider either the Guild CE-100, or the Guild A-150. The first has dual set-in humbuckers, and the second has a single DeArmond floating pickup. Each can be had used from between $600 and $900, and new for around $1K or a bit more. It is also possible to get a vintage 70's or 60's CE-100 for $1K - $1300, and to me these are every bit the guitar a Gibson ES-175 is. There is a mint 70's CE-100D, and a good 60's CE-100 available on ebay right now (both USA made) and are both worth a serious look, as are the used Korean-made models for well under 1K.

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    Thank you all !!!

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    Has anyone tried The Loar LH 280 or something from this company?