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I sing and play and I have to decide on one guitar. I do a combo of about half standards and the rest anything; folk, pop, etc...
Any brands I should look for with a classical? I don't need anything that good, just something that's not horrid. I don't like Ibanez at all.
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10-31-2014 11:06 PM
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I'm VERY happy with my Cordoba GK Studio - mine is cypress - they also make a Negra version in rosewood. About $600 at GC. I tried everything they had, including Taylor, and the GK blew them all away. I had them bring out and unbox one for me - it was perfect out of the box. Has dual source pickup and built in tuner. Comes with nice gig bag.
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Ah, I strummed a Cordoba the other day. I thought, I miss my classical guitar! $600 isn't too bad.
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I see they have a mid pot. That could address the main problem with these A/E's.
I'll have to try the flamenco model against the others. I never liked the sound of cutaway guitars but maybe it's time to give them another try.Last edited by Stevebol; 11-01-2014 at 12:38 AM.
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The Yamaha NTX series was designed for amplified perfprmance, rather than having a pickup added as an afterthought. I love mine.
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If you are playing amplified exclusively, something from the Godin Multiac series will fit the bill perfectly.
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^^^
I want as much natural volume as possible. The Multitac sounds good but it's probably not what I'm looking for. Yamaha is a possibility but I think a Cordoba model will probably suit me.
I'm going to keep searching for a while though.
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I have an Esteve 3CE that I enjoy.
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I had a Cordoba Rosewood Fusion 14, I really like very much the narrower neck and the curve of the fingerboard. The electronics package is decent enough also, built in tuner too. For a guy that doesn't play classical it was great sitting on the back steps playing church tunes accompanied by the warm classical tone.
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FYI, I was at Cream City Music in Brookfield a couple of days ago. And, they had a used Yamaha NTX700. I messed around with it for a while and liked it a lot. I think they want around $350 ish for it. They also have a La Patrie Hybrid that is pretty nice.
I was also on the hunt for a nylon A/E. I ended up getting an acoustic pickup for my parlor guitar. I know that you are in the area, so, I thought that I would pass this along.
By the way, I still have your gypsy jazz book, from when you let me try your Gitane. I would be happy to get that back to you.
Mike
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Steve, i went through this a ywar ago and ended up with the Godin duet ambiance. Couldn't be happier...the best plugged in acoustic tone i've heard of any guitar period, and surprisingly loud unplugged. You owe it to yourself to at least check one out--fantastic instrument and tailor made for the applications you're talking about.
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Yes, my main classical guitar is a Ramirez 4E although, if I need to be amplified (and don't want to scratch the Ramirez at a gig!) the Godin Duet Ambience I have is perfect. It has a proper sized classical neck although there is a narrower version also.
Plenty of tone options using the mic simulators. Very nice sounding guitar and very playable. Also, unlikely to have any feedback issues as solid body (well, almost solid).
I'm actually that impressed with it I have played some classical duets (with grand piano) using this guitar and the sound is really close to a proper classical guitar.
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I too have a Cordoba, the Fusion 14. 14 frets clear, hybrid neck. They also make a 12 fret version. Plays great, sounds great. My only complaint is a personal preference, I wish it was more of a thinline than a full-depth box.
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How you been? I might take a look at that Yamaha.
Originally Posted by miken
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I like the sound of the Godin plugged in. The Cordoba is nice too plugged and unplugged. It might come down to how much I like the sound for simple folk strumming although I don't do that many songs like that.
The advantage of a classical is it's not going to sound particularly good or bad for non-classical music. Therefore, not a distraction.
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Originally Posted by Skip Ellis
+1 on the GK Studio, I have the Negra version. It's a comfortable guitar to play and I always get compliments on the sound. The gigbag it comes with is pretty nice but I upgraded to the hardshell 'Humicase'. (nice case plus it extends the warantee to lifetime)
I was interested in the Godin that Mr. B has but couldn't afford it!
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I've narrowed it down to the Cordoba Fusion or Iberia series. Guitar Center has a couple GK Studios. One used. Also a C5-CE. No 12 Naturals.
I'll resist the temptation to rip the poly finish off the top.Last edited by Stevebol; 11-01-2014 at 04:39 PM.
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A couple of late replies--I love the feel and sound of the Taylor models. Their under-$1000 crossover model is particularly nice. Not the narrowest neck width out there, but a radiused fretboard. IMO has a better sound for jazz than traditional classical guitars. Maybe because of the bracing?
Also I have had a couple of Alvarez classical A/E's. Very nice for the money, nice onboard preamps.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
I tried every Taylor at GC the day I got my Cordoba - I think there might have been 4 or 5 of them - and all I could get out of any of them was a 'thud' - absolutely no tone whatsoever and they were heavy, too. I've never been shy in my criticism of Taylor guitars - I've owned three at one time or another and the longest I ever kept one was a week (614C). Pretty nice workmanship, I will admit, but complete lack of tone. As always, YMMV..........but buy what you like!
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There's two ways to go with the nylon string guitar--(1) full-sized, standard classical guitar (with or without electronics), (2) an electro-classic guitar (with or without cutaway). For the most part, the first category has the advantage of providing you with the flat fingerboard, long-scale (about 26"), and neck/body materials that are the province of a true classical instrument. These instruments are predictable and sound truly great--when they are made properly. Played with classical technique, they reward the guitarist with superb and nuanced sound. I have had this kind of instrument longer than I have had any other kind of guitar, and I cannot imagine NOT being without one.
The second kind of "classical" guitar--I use the term loosely, here--is a departure from tradition. This instrument has a shorter, more electric guitar scale, i.e., 24-3/4". The neck has a nut width that is typical of many electric instruments--1-3/4". The fingerboard on these guitars may be highly radiused. Bodies on these guitars may be shallow, often just 2". Finally, it is customary for these guitars to feature a treble bout cutaway, and for the guitars to have piezoelectronic, or piezo-and-microphone electronics built in. These guitars are designed to be played by country, jazz, bossa, and other guitarists interested in expanding the range of their tonal palettes. The very funky, bluesy, country guitar player, Jerry Reed, used to employ an electro-classic guitar on stage and in recordings.
In addition to my regular classical guitar, I also use an Ibanez AE450, shallow-body electro classic to cover the Jerry Reed/Bossa Nova gigs. Honestly, for the bossa nova stuff I sometimes miss the 2" wide neck of my classical guitar, but for the funky stuff I really enjoy the radiused neck. Overall, the guitar makes a nice jazz guitar for solo, duo, and trio gigs.
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I have a Takamine EC-132C that is quite good- very playable, pretty good sound both acoustic & amplified. These are very prone to feedback. I have a sound hole plug (made by Córdoba, I think). That stops the feedback.
I don't use it any more, I play amplified and bought a Turner Renaissance RN-6 which sounds great plugged in but has no useful acoustic sound.
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What's up with the Cordoba GKs? I think they're sort of flamenco. I tried a cheapo flamenco only once and it was snappy. At the other end I had a nice Alvarez cedar top that was deep and rich sounding. I'm going with Cordoba but have to choose a model. I wouldn't mind a 1 7/8" nut for a change too.
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This is nice. He does some pick strumming;
Cordoba Fusion 12 Maple Classical Acoustic Electric Guitar Video at AMS
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Kenny Hill New World Guitars CATALOG .
And Barbera ultra high performance pickups for stringed instruments. Barbera Soloist merits consideration.
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I got around to trying a Cordoba GK. It sounded good. Also tried a C5-CE and it sounded much different, richer due to the cedar top and deeper body but also good. Naturally the one I'm most interested at this point- the Fusion Orchestra CE spruce top isn't in stock anywhere.
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