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    Ive used mostly round or ground wound strings for years, occasionally using flatwounds for certain periods. Recently, I purchased two sets of T.I. flatwounds that were on the pricey side figuring since Ive heard good things about them Id give them a try. While they sound OK, both sets out of the pack had corrosion on both of the high E and B strings, if you ran your finger tips up and down the strings you could feel the roughness where they were corroded or whatever it is. It seems to me for the price they charge the QC should be a bit better than this. It was annoying to feel this while playing. Anyone else have this problem? Bob

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    I like them a lot, and have never experienced this problem. I wonder if the store you bought them from had had them for years?

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    nope, i'd get my money back. i've used them since 2005 or so, with no problems.

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    I guess I should have contacted the dealer but being as they were an online purchase I didn't bother. A local store would be no problem, you know, take the guitars in and show them what the problem is. Any suggestions as to a good brand of flats ? As I said Ive used flats only every so often but I think Im going to string at least one of my guitars with them for good. Im not a fan of Dadarios for the record. Thanks. Bob

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    Run a piece of fine grit paper along the string or use metal polish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn
    Run a piece of fine grit paper along the string or use metal polish.
    I use a piece of fine (gray) Scotch-Brite for this.

    Have been using T-I strings for a dozen years and have never found this on an unused set.

    Danny W.

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    Perhaps the online dealer switched strings.

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    I've never encountered this with TIs.

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    I've been using these for awhile and actually like them quite a bit.

    TI Jazz Swing JS113
    P13
    P17
    JS21
    JS28
    JS39
    JS53

    Before that I used these. They are also nice, but I think the TI's provide a difference that you can hear.

    D'Addario ECG25
    PL012
    PL016
    CG024
    CG032
    CG042
    CG052

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    I usually use D'Addario Chromes, which I like a lot, but when I want to splurge, I'll use TI Swing. There is a real difference. The Chromes are like a nice sensible car, and the TI's are like a luxury automobile with a price tag to match.

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    Only issue I've had with TI of late was ordering online and they came in packaging that wasn't the typicaly TI, everything else looked right. Strings were fine though. Now a buddy only uses TI PowerBrights and he got some online to save money and both the E and B's broke withing a week. He'd never broke a TI before. Maybe there are some gray or black market TI's online.

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    I use 11-50 D'Addario Chromes.

    Just because they're italian and I've heard so many good comments in other guitar forums, I bought a three-set pack of Galli JF1150 Jazz Flats, at a cost of almost twice of the D'Addarios, mostly because I wanted to experience the outcome of their round core.

    The Galli strings were OK, just not THAT "better" for my ears, so I couldn't really justify the expense.

    Here the TIs cost over THREE times the D'Addarios... so I don't think I'll ever try'em. You can call me a cheapskate, I'm alright with that.

    HTH,
    Last edited by LtKojak; 08-19-2014 at 12:04 PM.

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    Would be nice if all the string makers would add an extra 1st and 2nd to their set like Labella are doing.

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    Being somewhat new to the joys of flats, I've only just swapped my first set of TI Swings (12s) after about 4 months playing, for a second set. However, the new set sounds a little different - of course that can just be because they are new - that's why we swap strings isn't it ? But, looking back at the packaging for my first set, I noticed that the trebles were tin-coated, whereas the new pack appear to be brass-coated. I can't find any explanation of the difference between brass and tin coated trebles on the TI web-site. Can anyone enlighten me ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newsense
    Being somewhat new to the joys of flats, I've only just swapped my first set of TI Swings (12s) after about 4 months playing, for a second set. However, the new set sounds a little different - of course that can just be because they are new - that's why we swap strings isn't it ? But, looking back at the packaging for my first set, I noticed that the trebles were tin-coated, whereas the new pack appear to be brass-coated. I can't find any explanation of the difference between brass and tin coated trebles on the TI web-site. Can anyone enlighten me ?
    Wasn't there another thread on this topic of tin vs. brass?

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    I've looked and found this quote from PTChris from a couiple of years ago:

    "The plating makes up a very small amount of the mass of a plain string. Most strings are plated in either tin, silver, or brass. I do not see any reason to link this thin (and prone to wear) plating to any systematic tone difference. I have never heard a difference."

    If there is no tonal difference I can only believe TI sell both because people react differently to them, chemically speaking; tin might last longer than brass with certain people and vice-versa with others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak
    The Galli strings were OK, just not THAT "better" for my ears, so I couldn't really justify the expense.
    I have found that the Galli strings last far longer than any others I have tried. Their tone just doesn't change, and I have had the same set on one guitar for most of this year.

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    The treble strings in that pack were exposed to humidity somewhere along the line. Just replace them with generic plain strings if you want to keep the wound strings. I presume the wound strings were likely exposed to the same humidity levels, so draw your own conclusions regarding their condition sound-wise and the state of the core wire. I'd be tempted to return them if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindjimmy
    Perhaps the online dealer switched strings.
    If I remember correctly the TI Swing flats have red silk winding at both the ball end and tuner end. At least the 13's did anyway.

    Btw has anybody tried La Bella flats recently ? There was a lot of activity some time ago regarding a change to their consistency. Any updates?.

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    I just bought a set of RotoSounds, Ill let you know how they work out. Thanks for every ones input. Bob

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    I use T-I Jazz Swings on all my hollow and semi-hollows- 10s on my SH550, 11s on my ES-335 and Dot, and 12s on my AFJ91. The search for a favorite string is over, and I've tried a boatload. Never had a rust problem, though I'll never go over 6 months without changing them out. They just aren't as lively, and a had a third string lose its winding after about 6 or 7 months.

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    For flats I always use Thomastiks. I've tried chromes, but they just didn't cut it for me. They didn't feel balanced and I was experience strange string buzz (especially on the G string) which I didn't encounter with the Thomastiks. Considering how long the Thomastiks last, I don't mind the extra cost considering how much more I like them.

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    To be truthful, I didn't find the T.I.s to be balanced at all. There was a noticeable SPIKE in the tone when the E or B were played. Cords were mellow then brash on the last two strings. I use John Pearse strings as a rule and have never had a spikey or brash tone! I put the T.I.s on and it was like , WTF? These are supposed to be great strings and both sets are tone turds!?? Brashy, Spikey and no balance whatever. Again, I have no previous use knowledge of these strings so I guess it is what it is. To be truthful , the Pearses are round wound but still I have never had this problem with other flats Ive used. I guess theres really no reason to beat a dead horse here, I had a bad experience with T.I.s and it is what it is. Thanks to everyone who joined in and added their input! Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top of the Arch!
    ...I didn't find the T.I.s to be balanced at all. There was a noticeable SPIKE in the tone when the E or B were played...
    I have noticed this with the B string on occasion, but not so much with the E. Still, I really like the sounds I get with these strings, esp. strings 3 thru 6. I have considered a different brand for strings one and two.

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    I mostly use TIs. Never a problem. One redeeming fact: The single unwound strings are cheap. A lot of players will use additional unwound strings and not change the wound strings. It is also not uncommon to use the unwound strings from a different gauge set, e.g., use the strings appropriate to a .14 set with a .13 set. I find it helps some with the balance.