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Originally Posted by feet
Yo momma so dumb she thought Herpes was a flavour of chocolate. OK, the denizens are getting angry...
Getting rarer than hen's teeth. Sellers on ebay are asking $3699 to $3999 for one now. I saw an old listing on ebay for an L-5 Studio Sunburst that was sold for $2300.
Originally Posted by steinny
Not trying to push it too hard but considering your self-imposed budgetary constraint of $2500 and under if you are looking for a warm mellow spruce topped Gibson archtop with twin inset humbuckers and you don't mind a shorter scale length, there is a 1990 L4CES for sale in Spokane Washington. The seller has it listed up on Reverb.com for $2599 https://reverb.com/item/154858-gibso...ntage-sunburst . But I have been told that he can be persuaded to go lower on a person to person deal.
I like the L4CES for its 16" size, construction and tone. So much so that i have two of them and am looking for a third, used, in an all-Ebony Mahogany with twin pups or Natural Laminated Maple with one neck pickup finish.
Also, an L-5CES Wes Montgomery with the single neck pup must needs be different sounding to a twin pup L-5CES. It goes for the Heritage Golden Eagle with the single neck pup too. The L-5CES Wes Montgomery is a little more exuberant and lighter toned than the warmer twin pup L-5CES, all things else remaining equal.Last edited by Jabberwocky; 06-09-2014 at 06:03 AM.
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06-09-2014 04:36 AM
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Agreed. Try a "lawsuit" guitar... You can still get them in Japan.
Originally Posted by SuperFour00
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Ibanez Artcore Sj500Vls Hollow Body Electric Guitar in Violin Sunbu...
"Solid Spruce Top" refers to the "pressed dual layer/laminated solid" spruce top that is characteristic of these instruments.Last edited by Jabberwocky; 06-09-2014 at 05:24 AM.
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You may find a Gibson L-4 CES under $3K, and be done!!
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Originally Posted by SuperFour00
Lol oh yeh, there is that :-)
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This is going to sound cheeky but which Classic Wes do you mean? Early Wes...Riverside stuff...features Wes playing Kenny Burrell's ES 175. Sure sounds like Wes though.
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According to Kenny, the guitar he loaned Wes was an L-7, which would sound pretty much like an L-5.
Originally Posted by Greentone
Danny W.Last edited by Danny W.; 04-05-2015 at 07:43 PM.
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On at least one Pacific record with his brothers and Harold Land, Wes used an ES125 (maybe belonging to Barney Kessel who has told that he loaned Wes a guitar for a recording session in L.A. ). Wes is said to have owned a 175 himself at one point. It seems he used one - his own or borrowed - on The Incredible Jazz Guitar.
Originally Posted by Danny W.
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or, simply buy an L5CES for $2500
Originally Posted by Patrick2

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Ha! I absolutely agree with Patrick2.
Originally Posted by Patrick2
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Sold! I will send my shipping details :-)
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Yeah Greg . . well you know damned well you stumbled across the kind of a deal unlikely to pop up more frequently than once every turn of the century . . . even for a guitar with the issues that one had. I still can't believe you sold that guitar. Even if you just hung it on your wall next to the picture of Trane, as another jazz icon. At $2,500 it would have been worth keeping, even as just iconic jazz guitar wall art. I find all L5CES' to be "pretty". But that one is one of the "prettier" . . . among the "pretty". Gorgeous shading!!
But, on the other hand, you generously allowed the guitar to pass into the hands of a player, who might have really wanted/needed an L5CES, but couldn't afford the $6,000 or so to buy one that had no issues. Good on you, man!
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Well THAT'S certainly something you won't read here too often!
Originally Posted by Greentone
Last edited by Patrick2; 06-10-2014 at 05:37 PM.
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FWIW the L5 Wes and the CES do sound different to me. I think it has to do with the cutout for the bridge pickup and with the pickup's mass. Now, Wes's L5 was an acoustic guitar-- different top carve entirely--with a pu added. To me, the CES is a brighter, crisper guitar--on the neck pu than is the Wes. For most jazz, however, I find the CES to be the canonical guitar in terms of tone. It is the one I would buy. Just for Wes music...I would want an acoustic L5 with a PAF. Actually, I would probably prefer a Super 400 CES. GREAT tone. I practically big though.
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Hi,
Here just few pics of my Epiphone Broadway Elite ; this guitar is fantastic to my ears ... and eyes
I did few mods : re-radiusing to '14 , vintage nos Japanase brass L5 tailpiece, Gibson style bound
pickguard w/5 ply and bracket, Schaller "Sealfast" Big Jazz tuners, amber flat hat knobs , gold schaller trussrod
cover.



Last edited by JazzJJ; 07-06-2014 at 12:54 PM.
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this is an idea of the sound of my Epiphone Broadway Elite plugged in a Gallien Kruger MB110 amp ; sorry the clip was recorded using my cheap smartphone
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Not used.
Originally Posted by steinny
This Golden Eagle just sold for $2700...and could have easily sold for $3k....it doesn't get any better than that for that price:
https://reverb.com/item/171141-herit...-antique-burst
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check out that thumb technique...how long did it take to master that!
Originally Posted by JazzJJ
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@JazzJJ . . . great looking and great sounding guitar! I also appreciated the thumb. Who ever said ya can't do up strokes with the thumb?? Guess you disproved that myth!
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Wow JazzJJ, that was impressive! Congrats!
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
I know my left hand it is quite "unusual" and also never developed a good picking tecnique but I know that I will try and try mayby forever?
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Bomber blows the myth too..he's a beast...Captain of a fire dep't...must of been all that down time to practice.
Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 07-06-2014 at 01:52 PM.
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Originally Posted by FrankLearns
Thank you Frank ; just wanting to give an idea of how sounds my Broadway Elite
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Originally Posted by Patrick2
thank you Patrick
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That's pretty cool, JazzJJ. I got myself a scratched up old L5 tailpiece with the medallion and L5 script on it just for this conversion. Since you have already had it done, do the screw-mount and endpin holes line up perfectly? I got mine, a Natural, from Japan. The Sunburst is a lot rarer.
Those Sealfast Bullseyes are an indulgence! I don't think I will go to that extent.
Very nice.



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