70s Gibson ES-175 Value

[wintermoon]

"With this type of back-n-forth dialog, the dealer will immediately recognize that the seller is not naive. The dealer will either agree to sell the guitar without the "required" work . . or he'll pass on the consignment."

from personal experience I can tell you that I had a guitar perfectly set up and cleaned--absolutely 100% ready to go and got nickel and dimed after the sale when the check arrived.

this after letting the dealer know beforehand that it was ready to go and I didn't want to be hit w/any additional fees for setups, cleaning, etc. and I certainly wasn't prepared to shell out for a set of replacement control knobs because "everyone hates those old original black witch hat knobs" and an unnecessary replacement pickguard.

my mistake was as Patrick stated, not mentioning the exact dollar amount I expected to net in advance, I just took his word for it.

big mistake by him as I had a boatload of business to send his way and he won't sniff it now.
I still have all the old emails on file and will never deal w/that individual again.

[Patrick2]

"With this type of back-n-forth dialog, the dealer will immediately recognize that the seller is not naive. The dealer will either agree to sell the guitar without the "required" work . . or he'll pass on the consignment."

from personal experience I can tell you that I had a guitar perfectly set up and cleaned--absolutely 100% ready to go and got nickel and dimed after the sale when the check arrived.

this after letting the dealer know beforehand that it was ready to go and I didn't want to be hit w/any additional fees for setups, cleaning, etc. and I certainly wasn't prepared to shell out for a set of replacement control knobs because "everyone hates those old original black witch hat knobs" and an unnecessary replacement pickguard.

my mistake was as Patrick stated, not mentioning the exact dollar amount I expected to net in advance, I just took his word for it.

big mistake by him as I had a boatload of business to send his way and he won't sniff it now.
I still have all the old emails on file and will never deal w/that individual again.

It's all about a paper trail of documentation. Even, as you state . . after letting the dealer know beforehand . . if it wasn't documented and signed off on by both parties, there's a very real possibility that the dealer, in all honesty simply forgot that conversation he had with you and just took it upon himself to do what he felt necessary to get the guitar sold, and that you'd be OK with it. On the other hand, if you presented him with a formal "contract of sale" . . or if he had/has a specific consignment agreement that you read thoroughly . . and made notations to issues you disagreed with .. you would have the recourse to tell him . . . "look man, here's what we agreed to."

For me, as a business man . . any business dealing other than items of property and cash changing hands immediately and on the spot . . require a written agreement.

[Randooley]

The Guitar Dater Project suggests 1970-72.Gibson shifted to Nashville from '74 to '84

[icr]

In my book, 90% of a guitar's value is how it plays and sounds. How people determine that from a picture on the internet makes me think of how a 'card reader' makes up with stuff to say.