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these don't feel or play any heavier than the .012 D'Addario's that came on this guitar. What a fabulous compromise string to play acoustically and electrically.
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03-25-2014 06:55 PM
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haven't tried them 2B, but I'm glad you're using rounds, and a nice heavy gauge.
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thats a great price, where did you get those BB114 TIs?
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That is a good price.. I play the .013's and they really do allow the guitar to give a good account of itself acoustically.
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I generally prefer a minimum of 13's for electric, but 14's for acoustic playing...I like the feel of the beefier strings, especially since the string tension on TI's is comparatively light to other strings I've tried.
Originally Posted by wintermoon
I bought a quad set from Jeff Hale, not knowing he was about to go out of business. This is my last set, so it's back to $25 a set after this set...although, these will last me a very long time. Originally Posted by tucson matt
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I use the same strings on my Golden Eagle. Love those strings.
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The best price for BB113 TI's I've found is Elderly Instruments.
THOMASTIK INFELD BB113 ELECTRIC GUITAR SET - Elderly Instruments
They are $25.95 for one or $21.70 for 2 or more.
If anyone knows better i'd love to know...
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I'm definitely gonna try those TI strings after these wear out. I wanted some put on my L5 when I took it in to get setup, but they didn't carry 'em, so I went with the D'Addario chrome jazz lights instead.
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Yeah, they're great strings. I played them for about 8-years and in around 2010, I went down to .013s. They are just a touch less fatiguing on sinister Johnny Smith closed voicings...
Glad you're havin fun ...:-)
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They aren't any heavier than D'Addario .12's. The top 2 strings are thicker but all the others basically thinner or the same. Total string pressure on the neck in lbs is probably very similar between those two sets.
I love the look of that cupid's bow at the end of the board.
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I went to buy some TI Swing 12's ahead of a gig and they were out of stock - so I took a chance and went up to 13's.
Wish I'd done that years ago. Can't believe how much of a difference it made and I will stick with this gauge in future.
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I'm currently using 12s and I'm thinking of switching to 13s for my next strings change. Can you tell me more about the difference you felt after switching ? Originally Posted by mangotango
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>>> They aren't any heavier than D'Addario .12's. The top 2 strings are thicker but all the others basically thinner or the same. Total string pressure on the neck in lbs is probably very similar between those two sets.
Info can be nearly useful sometimes in my opinion. Both manufacturers have tension data for the strings.
If you look at the tension charts for JS113 vs, Chromes .012 to .052 you do have to consider that without stating the scale length, the charts may not be directly comparable.
But for laughs, the charts do seem to match the feel of the sets.
That is to say that the tension balance of TI sets is relatively even compared to most manufacturers.
The Chromes .012 set has about the same total tension as the JS113 (probably less that 1% lighter overall - again, it can be a mistake to take the charts to be exact comparisons with no scale length data shown.)
The Chromes vary by 25 to 30% in tension from one string to another (depending on how you want to calculate the difference as a percentage).
Info can be nearly useful sometimes in my opinion. Both manufacturers have tension data for the strings.Last edited by PTChristopher2; 03-26-2014 at 08:13 AM. Reason: spelling
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I just changed my strings from d'addario chrome 12s to TI swing 13's on my 25" Eastman El Rey 1 they definitely feel more supple less stiff and easier to fret. In addition they respond loosely described more like a classical string and less like an acoustic steel string(best way I can describe it). They are very balanced the third g string is great with much less grittiness and the less polished feel of the Chrome 12's. The 6th E string is also very nice and doesn't feel as fat or cumbersome for fast picking as the Chrome.
All in all just my observations. Yours or your pref may differ.Last edited by Ric Lee; 03-26-2014 at 09:01 AM.
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Great pictures, I like the strings too. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
these don't feel or play any heavier than the .012 D'Addario's that came on this guitar. What a fabulous compromise string to play acoustically and electrically.
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The third strings on these sets tend to go after a an evenings Freddie Greenage.
A bit of a shame as otherwise they are ideal for me.
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BTW - I ordered single D'addarios at the same gauges as the Bebops. The idea is to have the same tension but more durable and cheaper.... Will let you know...
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They may not feel quite the same because the wire core in the D'As is thicker and thus feels harder to fret than TIs of the same gauge (applies to wound strings of course). The rule of thumb is that a 13 set of TIs feels like a 12 set of D'As (still the wound strings) - not exactly, but you get the idea. Originally Posted by christianm77
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Either that or replace the string that goes with a single single wound string of some other make. The G string literally lasts one gig with me.
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A friend recently gave me a (brand new) set of Jazz Bebop. I look forward to try them. It may take a while though, because I just put new sets of Plectrum and Jazz Swing on my guitars, and the TI last me many months.
2b, so they are a fabulous compromise, but would you say that they're best at electric or acoustic playing? Which guitar I put them on may depend on your answer. Thanks! Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
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2b likes 'em for both electric and acoustic playing. Their grip is preferred to any jazz string I've owned. There's a slight tradeoff over flats for a slight string noise. But that can be minimized with PRACTICE. Originally Posted by Eddie Lang
A friend recently gave me a (brand new) set of Jazz Bebop. I look forward to try them. It may take a while though, because I just put new sets of Plectrum and Jazz Swing on my guitars, and the TI last me many months.
2b, so they are a fabulous compromise, but would you say that they're best at electric or acoustic playing? Which guitar I put them on may depend on your answer. Thanks!
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Thanks, 2b.
Are the Bebop a little more "powerful" than the Swing when played acoustic?
How would you qualify and differentiate the sound of the Swing and Bebop, for both acoustic and electric playing?
Right now, I have Plectrum on the round hole L-4, and Swing on the L-4C and the L-7. I play the last two electric (floating pups) and acoustic. Maybe the short scale L-4C will be a good candidate for these Bebop. I like how mellow the Swing sound on the L-4C, but maybe it will be a bit spunkier with a set of Bebop.
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I've owned several sets of .013 Bebop's...which seemed brighter by comparison, to my ear...as a result, I don't buy .013 Bebop's any more..oddly enough .014 Bebop rounds sound and feel just right....just my experience...others experience may vary. Originally Posted by Eddie Lang
Thanks, 2b.
Are the Bebop a little more "powerful" than the Swing when played acoustic?
How would you qualify and differentiate the sound of the Swing and Bebop, for both acoustic and electric playing?
Right now, I have Plectrum on the round hole L-4, and Swing on the L-4C and the L-7. I play the last two electric (floating pups) and acoustic. Maybe the short scale L-4C will be a good candidate for these Bebop. I like how mellow the Swing sound on the L-4C, but maybe it will be a bit spunkier with a set of Bebop.Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 03-31-2014 at 02:45 PM.
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OK, drifting just a bit here (but not a complete hi-jack, I don't think), I use TI Jazz flat 12s on my carve top and my laminates. If I bumped up to 13s would I detect a significant volume/tone difference? I switched to the TI strings from DA 12s for the lower tension, but if the rule of thumb is that a DA 13 set has around the same tension as a TI 12, then I might try going to the TI 13 set if I got better volume and/or tone (I only play fingerstyle, no pick, and rarely plug in). Any one have experience with this?
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Apologies for the delay in responding, Prof. Jones. Originally Posted by Professor Jones
Pretty much what Ric Lee said; and maybe it's psychological but they sound a little more solid and full in this gauge. I'd been playing Newtone Archtops for several months but the gig that I'd just got with the guitar/double bass duo demanded a slightly different sound. Even though the Newtones are better than any roundwound I've played for reducing string noise, since the guitar was so upfront and exposed in that format, I decided that I couldn't live with the string squeak and I went back to the TI Swings. Not regretting that for a moment, and I'm definitely not putting down the Newtones - I will put them on my semi for the next string change - but this is the sound i want right now. I just feel most comfortable playing these strings and very happy with the move up in gauge.
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