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    Hey jazzguitar-fellows! Im sure their is another thread like this on the forum but i try anyway.

    I am looking for an upgrade from my dearmond x-155 to eastman ar372 or ibanez lgb30.
    i found plenty positive feedbacks on the ar372 but lgb30 not so much because lgb30 is pretty new on the market.
    What do you guys think about these two models?

    are their any lgb30-owners here that have some positive/negative thoughts?

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    If you re a pro in Jazz, I recommend ar372 to you.
    If you re a newbie and want a jazzbox to sound jazzy, I recommend LGB30 to you.

    Good luck.....

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    If you can pay a little bit more, get a GB10. It will kill them all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falling_leaves
    If you re a pro in Jazz, I recommend ar372 to you.
    If you re a newbie and want a jazzbox to sound jazzy, I recommend LGB30 to you.

    Good luck.....
    Why would you dissuade a pro from buying and/or playing an Ibanez LGB30?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falling_leaves
    If you re a pro in Jazz, I recommend ar372 to you.
    If you re a newbie and want a jazzbox to sound jazzy, I recommend LGB30 to you.

    Good luck.....
    not sure if I agree or if that even makes sense!

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    Even though the lgb30 is new on the market, it's still an ibanez archtop MIC and they have a very good reputation. The Eastman 372 is also highly regarded generally. The two guitars are quite similar in terms of specs, so if you can't try them before buying you can just choose the one that looks the best to you. Either way, I think you can't go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klatu
    Why would you dissuade a pro from buying and/or playing an Ibanez LGB30?
    quite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Jones
    Even though the lgb30 is new on the market, it's still an ibanez archtop MIC and they have a very good reputation. The Eastman 372 is also highly regarded generally. The two guitars are quite similar in terms of specs, so if you can't try them before buying you can just choose the one that looks the best to you. Either way, I think you can't go wrong.
    They might be similar on paper but the maple top and spruce top will sound completely different. ymmv

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    Aren't there some pretty big differences in neck profile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentwiz
    Aren't there some pretty big differences in neck profile?
    i haven't played the 372 but all the eastmans I've played are a Slim C taper which is what the ibanez jazz guitars use.

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    I recently bought an LGB30 it compares very favourably with my LGB300, a little less Bass probably due to the slimmer body and different pickups but a very nice tone anyway, the neck is slim and very comfortable and the finish is immaculate it came with a hard shell case and a rosewood top for the bridge in case you don't want to use the TOM. Haven't played a 372 so can't compare it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    They might be similar on paper but the maple top and spruce top will sound completely different. ymmv
    You're right, I thought the ibanez had a maple top. Turns out the neck is mahogany on that one too, instead maple of on the eastman. So on paper one could say that the ibanez should sound "warmer"... In any case, one should be able to get a good jazz tone out of any of these two guitars.
    Last edited by Nabil B; 03-26-2014 at 06:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Jones
    You're right, I thought the ibanez had a maple top. Turns out the neck is mahogany on that one too, instead maple of on the eastman. So on paper one could say that the ibanez should sound "warmer"... In any case, one should be able to get a good jazz tone out of any of these two guitars.
    the neck on the ibanez is 3pc maple/mahog/maple

    And no, spruce is brighter than maple

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    And no, spruce is brighter than maple
    I've always heard the contrary. Then again, you know much more about the subject than me (no sarcasm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Jones
    I've always heard the contrary. Then again, you know much more about the subject than me (no sarcasm).
    Spruce has a brighter attack. You can hear this when you play octaves or wes inspired block chords. The maple is darker and doesn't have the velvety top end of the spruce.

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    Right...maple gets painted as bright because of the tone of spruce/maple flattops and maple necked starts and teles...but that's not the case in its use for tops in archtops.

    And mind you, solid maple (not commonly used, but my 575 has it) is brighter than laminate...just compare a 575 and 175.

    There's so many factors really...top, back and dides, neck, they all make little differences in how things vibrate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    the neck on the ibanez is 3pc maple/mahog/maple
    Other way around: mahogany/maple/mahogany, i.e., mostly mahogany

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    thanks, I stand corrected on the neck configuration.

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    I have the Ibanez lgb30 and i am completly satisfied!!The guitar sounds and looks amazing and the neck is absolutely comfortable!!I havent played with any eastman guitar.I used to play with a godin multiak spectrum which is a very good guitar but the ibanez lgb30 is even better!!I believe eastman 372 is very good guitar too so the dilemma is (if you can t try any of these guitars)which one looks better to you!!Have good luck!!

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    I can only say I tried the Ibanez AS155 (or Af155) new one with ebony board, so very similar to the LGB30 and was very impressed. if I had to plonk dow £700 on a new jazz box, that would be the one.

    My current inventory is higher end hand carved archtops, so I wold have to be pretty damn impressed.

    in fact I would state that for the first time, buying a new guitar from ibanez for £700 is better than almost any secod hand deal you will get for anything else, that would be as well put together.

    Now that is a real first. Well done Ibanez, well done China!

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    Here is a different question: are either of these really an upgrade from the Dearmond? Not that it is any of my business really, but seems like that is a good guitar as well depending on the pickups used at the time it was being made.

    I am really asking as there is used, Korean-era Dearmond x-155 for sale nearby and I am not sure if that is better or an Eastman ar403ce, which will be a few dollars more but still a good deal. They both have their strengths and individual sound, but is there that much difference in quality?

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by RClegg
    Here is a different question: are either of these really an upgrade from the Dearmond? Not that it is any of my business really, but seems like that is a good guitar as well depending on the pickups used at the time it was being made.

    I am really asking as there is used, Korean-era Dearmond x-155 for sale nearby and I am not sure if that is better or an Eastman ar403ce, which will be a few dollars more but still a good deal. They both have their strengths and individual sound, but is there that much difference in quality?

    Russ
    I think you will find them a little better but then that is all subjective.

    I would probably want to upgrade if I had the de-armond, but is the LGB and Eastmen an upgrade enough?

    I would rather go for the intermediate choice al LGB and be happier for longer.

    I am of course going from experience in budget/midrange guitars, although the Dearmond is something I haven't played.

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    Did you choose one of these two? I'm considering them both as well!

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    I am looking at both of these guitars as well. Any new experiences? Thanks

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    Eastman 403-ce 100 % Superior balance and lighter weight . One of my three main giging axes. mickmac . I also have the Ibanez agood guitar for the money with a heavy poly finish .Wintertime use ... Mickmac