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The LP tone is fine, but the comfort over 2hours of proper practice is zero.
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07-29-2013 08:12 PM
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I have a tele and a strat. Today I was enjoying my strat... It can easily get a nice jazzy tone with the neck pickup, and the contoured body is probably a bit more more comfortable than a standard tele shape.
Both are nice!!
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Since you haven't got a tele. Then you need a tele. When the OH complains you just dismiss it with "they made me do it".
I go to a jazz club and most players play humbucker equipped archtops. When someone comes on with a tele, for the first 5 seconds it sounds bright because your still comparing it to the archtop. After that you just get on with enjoying the playing. There is a school of thought that suggests that the teles maple neck gives better note separation during complex chord changes. The JS Hofner verythin is similar.
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I think Ted Greene felt that.
Originally Posted by Chimera1to1
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I have a good Tele and a good Les Paul.
Les Paul
-Good jazz tone on neck. Les Paul (the man) played jazz so no surprise there. Dark and smoky as you need it.
-Weight. yes, my LP weighs 2 lbs more than my Tele but I play seated. How many jazz players play standing up other than fusion cats? However, the LP is ass heavy so you fight it a bit as it wants to orient backwards off your leg. It balances perfectly on a strap but like I say, who plays jazz standing up?
-Scale. Some people like a shorter scale.
-Playability. My LP plays well with a nice low action.
-Strings. You'll be surprised how going to 12s on your LP makes it come alive for jazz. I like Daddario 1/2 wounds.
Telecaster
-stock neck single coil is a very nice jazz tone but mine has a Duncan Minibucker which, to me, is as good a solid body jazz tone as I've heard.
-comfort. The tele is very light and comfortable seated or standing. Not as comfy as a Strat (what guitar is), but very nice.
-scale. The 25.5" scale gives a clearer bass response and over all crispness.
-playability. Mine plays great.
Overall, I'd choose a Tele but if I only had a Les Paul, it would still be outstanding for jazz.
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Bigdaddy, I honestly always thought it was the longer scale too.
you can hear the individual voices better...on a Gibson scale the voices blend more...it's like the Beach Boys versus Crosby, Stills, and Nash...one's not better, but different...
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Ted said the longer scale also put the neck pickup further from the bridge than other guitars for bigger sound. He also said Fender tele's and strat's were the best at handling lowered tunings that he did a lot of.
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Originally Posted by montykohn
IMHO, all of the Gibson SG guitars I've played are neck heavy, so I always feel like I'm holding the Gibson SG guitar neck up with my fretting hand, which is a terrible way to play. This is sometimes called "Neck Dive"
Guy
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Keep faith with the SG:
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^^^ Are you sure that's not a double-cut LP?
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Isn't that just a matter of when they produced it and which name they put on the headstock? An SG by any other name is still an SG. It looks a lot like this one, which supposedly sold for $110k on ebay after the show aired.
'Pawn Stars': Rare Les Paul Gibson 'SG' Guitar (VIDEO)
The Les Paul memorial issue cover of Guitar Player magazine shows him with the same guitar, or at least a close cousin.
More on topic, I second the "neck dive" comment.
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If you mean the SG/Les paul made in 1961 and 1962, then no, I think Tharpe is playing a 63 SG Custom. If you mean the Les Paul Standard double cut made in the 90s, well, she died in 1973.
Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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Telecaster all the way for me. I do like the tone of LP but they don`t seem as versatile for me. I had a `64 Sg I really liked but it looked to much like the Batman Signal to me..One ugly guitar..
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for jazz sound- sure Tele!!!
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I've had both LP's and Tele's. For jazz, it's a hollow body that gets my preference. But......
The LP's are gone - humbuckers just don't get me close to a hollow body tone on a solid body.
the Tele is still here, and when I mess around with it, I find its versatility amazing. With dial twisting, you can get some jazzy tone. I like the single coil neck setup.
My old Strat - same thing - great tones on the SC neck p/up. One of the best sounding Fenders I've heard, had a mini-humbucker in the neck position. They are brighter than the full size hummers.
A tele that feels right would really prosper with the right neck p/up, SC or HumB.
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Tele's are great for any music, Jazz included. If you get a good one they can have a very nice top end chime and ring out with a nice 'acoustic' quality - plus they can have a really pleasant bass tone as well.
My, .02 cents, get an Esquire
The lack of a neck pickup means a more open sound and they really ring out! Use the tone knob and amp to dial in a jazzy sound.
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I used to have several solid-body guitars, but I whittled it down to just two, the SG and the Tele.
So now I just have one. It's the Tele. Which tells you my take on this.
If I were going to buy now and these two types of guitar were the options, then this sort of thing would be my choice:-
G&L® Tribute® Series ASAT® Classic Bluesboy? Semi-Hollow
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I agree with you except for the bridge. The bluesboy has what G&L calls a "traditional boxed-steel bridge", i.e. the Tele bridge plate (albeit with 6 saddles). I prefer G&L's Saddle lock bridge -- I wish it were an option for the Bluesboy.
Originally Posted by mangotango
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BTW, G&L recently announced two new Tribute [made by Cort in Indonesia] ASAT [T-style] models: the ASAT Junior II (2xP-90) and the ASAT Deluxe II (2xHB). Both have mahogany bodies, rosewood fingerboard on maple necks and T-O-Ms.


G&L Tribute Series guitars
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I am going to pull the trigger this week and buy a telly. I found some really cool "Thin-skinned" 52 Fender Telecaster American Vintage guitars. I tried all 5 they had and loved the feel. Big thing I liked was the fat "U" neck, however, it's a maple and I prefer a rosewood neck - not a deal breaker though. But, the feel of the neck and the quality were the most paramount in my selection. This price is awesome - it's great value. Now I just need to decide if I should go with the traditional neck pickup or the ones with the Seymour-Duncan 59' humbucker in the neck. They all sounded great though!
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Great Choice!
But before you pull the trigger, give yourself 5 minutes with the Fender Baja Tele.
Fender Custom Shop design with chunky neck, the same "Twisted Tele" Pups as the American Standard, Ash body, Vintage features including a great butterscotch transparent finish, and all for $799 street price.
In the last month, I've purchased a new American Deluxe tele and a Baja tele, and love them both.
But the Baja is just an incredible value, made by the cousins of the guys in Corona, CA. a little further South.
Spend the difference on a Deluxe Reverb, and you're all set!
Bill
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BTW, I think the '52 Hot Rod, with the SD hum bucker has been or is being discontinued.
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Fender is making a mistake! I don't own one, but I would.
Originally Posted by boatheelmusic
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tele for sure, what ever flavor you like
Pick one that feels good and is inexpensive. You do not need to spend a lot of cash to get a great guitar. I'd take a look at the used market at either an American or Japanese produced guitar (better parts, or used to be, than the Mexican made).
Best of luck.



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