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  1. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by floatingpickup
    Are you going to bid on it?
    Keith
    Not at the stated opening bid. The openings on the D'As in that auction are crazy. Most are beyond the far reaches of the bubble, and bubble burst years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by customxke
    Not at the stated opening bid. The openings on the D'As in that auction are crazy. Most are beyond the far reaches of the bubble, and bubble burst years ago.
    I agree. Plus a 25% buyers premium.
    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by customxke
    My favorite so far....
    Interestingly, some of them, including this one, appears to have a spruce top. Is it laminated? Pressed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    Interestingly, some of them, including this one, appears to have a spruce top. Is it laminated? Pressed?
    That one's a New Yorker with Franz pickups, so it's a carved spruce top. There's a couple in this thread that are spec'd out as Excels that also have carved spruce tops. I'm not sure about the Neil Young guitar, or the one in second photo. I've never seen a John D guitar with a pressed spruce top. Here's another Excel that left the workshop as an electric, with a carved spruce top. (If anyone else has pics of John D'Angelico made electric guitars that aren't in this thread, feel free to post them here)


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    A neighbor has it for sale. The serial number is hand written on a paper label inside the f hole. It is it beautiful condition but he wants $2000 for it and I can’t find out when it was made. He says he bought it about 30 years ago but I don’t think the EX-DC was being made then. Please let me know if you can figure out anything that would help me make an offer on this.
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  7. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hcschrdr
    A neighbor has it for sale. The serial number is hand written on a paper label inside the f hole. It is it beautiful condition but he wants $2000 for it and I can’t find out when it was made. He says he bought it about 30 years ago but I don’t think the EX-DC was being made then. Please let me know if you can figure out anything that would help me make an offer on this.
    The first picture is not the same guitar as the other pictures.
    Keith

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    Thank you. You are correct. That was a mistake. Please disregard the pic of the Epiphone.

  9. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hcschrdr
    A neighbor has it for sale. The serial number is hand written on a paper label inside the f hole. It is it beautiful condition but he wants $2000 for it and I can’t find out when it was made. He says he bought it about 30 years ago but I don’t think the EX-DC was being made then. Please let me know if you can figure out anything that would help me make an offer on this.
    To be honest, I have a hard time deciphering the paper label, including the "crafted in XXX" section.

    The serial number fits neither the really old ones, nor the newer ones as far as I can tell.

    My suggestion would be to figure out whether they were making SS models in the early 1990s in the first place, if your neighbor bought it new. At the same I would just get in touch with D'Angelico. The best thing that can happen is that they give your the straight answer to your question within a day or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwoop
    To be honest, I have a hard time deciphering the paper label, including the "crafted in XXX" section.

    The serial number fits neither the really old ones, nor the newer ones as far as I can tell.

    My suggestion would be to figure out whether they were making SS models in the early 1990s in the first place, if your neighbor bought it new. At the same I would just get in touch with D'Angelico. The best thing that can happen is that they give your the straight answer to your question within a day or two.
    John D'Angelico died in 1964 and the guitars made with his name on them after that are not his and most have little in common with the instruments he made. The brand "D'Angelico" has changed hands a number of times since JA's death and it seems to have been resting "idle" in some periods. Jimmy D'Aquisto owned it for a short time right after JA died but then it was passed on. There are also D'Angelico "hommages" around made by more or less well known luthiers - Jim Triggs is one. So maybe in some cases it will be difficult to trace the origins of those instruments bearing D'Angelico's name but not being made by him. The present owners of the brand are not the ones who owned it in the 1990s. There has also been strings and picks bearing the D'Angelico name which has had nothing to do with JA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldane
    So maybe in some cases it will be difficult to trace the origins of those instruments bearing D'Angelico's name but not being made by him. The present owners of the brand are not the ones who owned it in the 1990s.
    I agree that everything between the end of the "original" D'Angelico-period and at least 1999, when the brand was acquired, will be very difficult to authenticate/date. Were there even guitars built in a systematic manner by whoever held the brand after Jimmy D'Aquisto lost it? Or was the brand really dormant and everything with the name D'Angelico on the headstock from that time is by definition not a "real" D'Angelico?

    As for the guitar in question: what gives me hope that there is some way to date the instrument based on the serial number is the fact that the label itself looks pretty much like the ones they used after the relaunch in 2011. Maybe that's a coincidence, but maybe it also means that the serial number somehow fits into the overall D'Angelico-catalogue.

    It all seems to require quite bit of detective work however...

  12. #36

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    To put things in some kind of order:

    The D'Angelico name went from John D'Angelico's heirs to Jimmy D'Aquisto and an attorney partner whose mother's maiden name was D'Merle. The attorney got the name when the partnership between he and Jimmy split up. The Attorney sold strings under the D'Angelico name for many years (but no guitars) and ultimately sold the name to GHS strings. In the 90's, GHS authorized replicas made by individual luthiers including Jim Triggs, Michael Lewis, Heritage guitars and Arturo Valdez. It should be noted that Gibson made at least two DA replicas in the 80's (I am unsure if permissions were granted for these.) Vestax of Japan started making mostly non carved DA replicas while GHS still owned the name (at times GHS and Vestax appeared to have some kind of arrangement). The name was sold to members of the family that started Arizona Iced Tea (The Ferolitos) and they still own it today. They have commissioned replicas from at least three different luthiers, imported guitars from Korea, Indonesia and China and possibly have some arrangement with Vestax (who might still be producing these guitars). The EX-DC inquired about here appears to be a Korean built guitar and was probably manufactured after 2000.

    HTH

  13. #37

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    Here is the link for how the current company’s serial numbers work:

    FAQ - D'Angelico Guitars

    I am having a hard time reading the numbers but it does say made in Incheon if i read that correctly, which is in Korea. His price seems high used, new they are 1699-1999. I have an excel ex ss with the flame maple top, fantastic guitar, but i paid 699 used.