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Launched at Namm 2013, this one slipped under the radar. Saw it in a D'Angelico booth tour video.
Compressor, boost, XLR out and effects send/return loop. Built for D'Angelico by Pigtronix.
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02-02-2013 01:33 PM
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What a very odd marketing idea.
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Pigtronix makes some awesome pedals, if its anything like the philosphers tone, it should be awesome.
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>>> What a very odd marketing idea.
To say the least. Does it capture the natural compression of Adirondak Spruce? I am waiting for D'Angelico oil-in-paper "tone" capacitors.
Chris
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I don't doubt that it's a quality pedal, I just find the use of the D'Angelico name in association with this type of product to be too tenuous to meaningful to me.
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John D. should be spinning in his grave by now. That name is getting thrown around like crazy.
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Has anybody else heard that Dangelico will be out of business soon? I just bought an EX-SS from Guitars n Jazz (if you don't know about them, check them out immediately) and the tech there, who worked for Dangelico for a few years, said they were doing very poorly and wouldn't be in business too much longer if things don't turn around soon.
I also never knew that the entire company was (and maybe still partially is?) at one time owned by the Arizona iced tea company. When I heard that, I immediately thought of John Dangelico spinning in his grave. After watching the NAMM videos, I have to say that their president, Steve Pisani, does not seem like he's a good representative for one of the most heralded names in jazz guitar history. I think he'd be better off working at a Guitar Center somewhere. Anyway, it'd be a huge shame if they went totally under any time soon.
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Really, to me, now, when I see the D'Angelico name, I see expensive Japanese made laminate guitars. I'm sure they're great, but not the same. Just like Aria D'Aquisto. Now they're selling pedals that don't seem to have a real jazz application. What next, D'Angelico 100 watt all tube head with 4 channels, clean, crunch, burn 1, burn 2, made in Vietnam, $799.
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I agree!
Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
What's next, D'Angelico toothpaste? Or Pasta-sauce(like Paule Newman's)...
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In that respect, they've actually taken a big stride back in the right direction with the guitars. My understanding is that at least some of the newest incarnation of DA's is being built in Arroyo Grande California by Gene Baker and his crew at Premier Builders Guild. They may ot have a lot of background in this sort of guitar but they have some serious guitar building chops. Originally Posted by DRS
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazin...lt_Series.aspx
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Gene has a pretty solid and varied background. I know him pretty well and I have a lot of faith in his abilities. And if things get really difficult, he can always ask Saul Koll for advice. Saul works with PBG and he's has built some dynamite archtops.
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I think that the guitars they're making now and over the past few years are pretty well done actually. Getting a guy like Bill Comins to spear head everything was a move that showed that they're still in touch with the boutique archtop community and that they want to improve what they have. I just bought an EX-SS and I can say that as an owner of close to 100 guitars over the course of my life, this one is in the top 5 of all the archtops I've owned. Of course you can't compare them to high end guitars like benedettos or victor bakers, but for a mid level priced jazz guitar, it's as good as you can get. It's very similar to the Comins GCS series, which I also own one of.
I don't think this pedal is too much to get worked up over. Who knows if they'll even be available to the public, and even so, all it is is a compressor/boost with a few other options. That's not totally crazy for a jazz guitarist. I'd be a lot angrier if I saw pigtronix making a dangelico overdrive pedal.
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I'm afraid the way they throw the D'Angelico name around, things will turn out like the Von Dutch name. When I asked a woman with a Von Dutch shirt and hat if she knew who he was, she said "he's a clothes designer". For those who didn't grow up in the custom car culture in the 50s in the U.S., Von Dutch or rather Kenny Howard was a custom car builder who developed the art of pinstriping. Someone just bought the name and started putting out some very expensive not so classy clothes and jewelry. The D'Angelico name is associated with high quality acoustic instruments. John D'A really didn't like electronics but did it only because he was asked to by the players who were getting into bebop and cool jazz and moving away from the rhythm sections. Now, there are D'A compression pedals. What next, flangers, chorus and distortion? That's so far from what John stood for. It would be different if John was doing it himself but he's not and I really don't think he ever would. Otherwise he would have put his name on amps but he didn't. He sold amps under the Danelectro name.
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So the $1200-1500 will be laminate and the $9-10K will be hand carved? D'Angelico's name deserves better than what has happened. Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
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While I do agree with just about everything being said here, I really don't think the company is in such a horrible place. The work that John himself completed was such a long time ago, I'd have to imagine even he would advance into some sort of modern touch at some point. I just hope we don't see any other solid bodies taking off. Ill be ready to denounce the brand when they come out with a Dangelico Strat.
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I disagree. Thats like saying, if Bach was still alive he'd now would have to come to the point of doing sitcom soundtracks. Id think like any artisan he would stay true to his craft . No double cut laminate top ES 335 models in Asia. Originally Posted by bluewaterpig
DAngelico was never meant to be a brand name. Gibson as a brand name fine, Fender fine, these guys purposedly built large scale buisinesses. But DA in fact always pertinently refused to expand to more than a one man operation. He was asked more than once by Gretsch and other investors to scale up.
I understand modern day DA's at all. Pedals or no pedals, all are way past the point for me.
Luthiers building guitars according to DA designs ? Great, as long as they put their own name on it
I am not saying your new DA instruments doesnt make any sense, probably fine and great price-quality ratio like you say. I just dont understand that they put DA on the headstock. That is like me making a CD and putting "Rolling Stones" on it. Writing a book saying "Dan Brown" on the cover. Making a painting and sign "Rembrandt". I am sure some investment company "owns" the name Rembrandt and could liscence me to do paintings. But no matter who now "owns" the name that is just not right.
After the pedal no doubt the Strat or "reverse flying V robot guitar" will be there someday soon
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The thing that irritates me the most about the new owners of the D'A name is the way they're marketing the guitars. If you go to the D'Angelico site, D'Angelico Guitars | A Legend is Reborn and click on where it says news at the bottom. You'll see 3 lines. Click on the second one, Icon vs icon. They're displaying the guitars in high end men's clothing stores. I've seen this kind of advertizing association before and it makes me sick to see it.
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Welcome to the world we live in, the DA name will never return to its old glory, just like many other name brands won't, it's been bought by someone who wants to make money. Also, what if someone bought the company and wanted to preserve it, and recreate these wonderful instruments in a respectful way, would it work? I don't think there is a huge market for 10000$ guitars. So to pay the bills they need to pay, they would in turn have to do something to make them money, which would probably piss off a lot of people. Now a days, companies don't care about(or very few do) preserving the name of what the company used to be. It's all about moving forward and trying to make as much money as possible. I hate that this is the way it has to be, but it's the times we live in.
hotfordcoupe: Again, that all comes down to money, the people shopping in those stores see the guitar, and whether or not they want to learn to play it, think it would look good on their wall. They have the cash, so why not buy it. It's clever marketing.
Just to verify my post, i aslo dislike the fact that this is what D'angelico guitars have become, but it is what it is.
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>the DA name will never return to its old glory, just like many other name brands
> I don't think there is a huge market for 10000$ guitars.
> preserving the name of what the company used to be.
you missed my point completely. DA in contrast to Gibson, Fender, Gretsch, Epiphone, etc, wasnt a brand or a company. He was a person, a one man artsinal shop. He refused on several occasions to expand to building more guitars. He didnt become a "brand" until after he died.
I didnt say they should make 10k guitars und the DA "brand" instead of more affordable ones. I said the guy is dead and whoever is now making guitars should just put their own name on the head
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Waiting for the D'Angelico Way Huge Swollen Headstock pedal. Makes any guitar sound like it has an enormous headstock.
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Here's the video where I found the pedal (4 minute mark)
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Well just forgetting the fact they are (or not) damaging D'Angelico's reputation what is exactly the logic of this product? Most jazz guitar players, even in fusion, don't use a compressor. Most "jazz amps" have a DI out and there are plenty of good products that have boost / eq / di like a Para Driver DI... What exactly are they offering a jazz player really needs? I don't exactly see a huge demand for compressor, boost, di out and fx loop on one box...
I think something like a Para DI with two mids and incorporated reverb could be brilliant for jazzers.
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Looks like a pedal a jazz player might actually use ... IMHO
I use a boost pedal when I need to switch between rythym and lead with my Swing bands ...
not enough time to play with the volume knob when you're banging out chords every quarter note and then you need to do your best Charlie Christian imitation without missing a beat
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I use a booster too but... do you need all those pedals in one box? Or do you feel most jazzers need? A booster is really simple to buy, most eqs bring one, sometimes even independent.
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Guys, read the other D'A thread (about the 2013 NAMM show). We've cracked the new company's code... Shhh... They aren't going for the jazz market.
You read that right. They are going for... the rockers. They want to expand their market and reach a new audience with modern, all-around products. The headstock and the name will be unfamiliar to some, perhaps to many, but when those folks are told that it's a legendary brand, they will nod and say "ahh."
This has happened lots of times. Each generation learns about old stuff and thinks it belongs to them, which is amusing but also good for keeping (some) things alive.
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