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The floating KA is essentially a floating P-90. It's a very good sounding pickup but it doesn't really sound like a DeArmond. I'm going to buy a reissue and do a comparison to my vintage one. If they sound remotely close I'll be putting them on my Premiers. I love my old DeArmond. It's one of my favorite sounds.
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07-04-2015 03:54 PM
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Interestingly the 1100 was literally just added about 2 days ago, because I almost pulled the trigger on a 1000 (which they've listed for about a year) last week.
I am still thinking about the 1000 over the 1100 for my Harmony Brilliant Cutaway because the guitar hardware is nickel, not gold. Image matters, you see. I don't see a strong need for pole height adjustment if I will be using nickel strings.
I am wondering what you guys who have purchased them are using for controls and jacks? I was thinking of a Schatten thumbwheel control and an endpin jack. I want to minimize the modification of the guitar and would prefer not to drill a hole in the pickguard for a knob. An endpin jack would require me to drill through the trapeze plate, something I'm also reluctant to do, so I might just install one on the lower bout.
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Originally Posted by Patrick2
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Thanks for the suggestion!
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Originally Posted by ingeneri
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I am interested in this too. I had a few questions for the experts.
Where do you buy these pots that attach to the pickup? They are apparently not supplied together with the RI pickup.
Is that an output Jack on the backside or do you need to somehow wire another one?
Do you have the guitar cable attach to an output jack on the pickguard or do you have the jack attached somewhere to the endpin or elsewhere?
Excuse my ignorance ... Never seen one in person but I did love the sounds I have heard.
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Originally Posted by FrankLearns
The monkeybar contraption held the pickup in place and the control box hung from the monkeybar behind the bridge. A more permanent installation was accomplished by using the short rod, attached to the neck. In this case, the pushbutton switch, with its threaded ring, was often used to mount the box under the pickguard. Here is a picture of one that I installed on an old D'Angelico this way.
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FWIW, both the old 1000 and the 1100 sounded fantastic. They weren't made identically, but they both featured a sound that put them in a class by themselves, relative to other kinds of pickups. (This goes for the FHC "guitar mic," too. It was also a beautiful pickup, in terms of getting a great jazz sound.)
I have played and owned all three pickups, at one time or another. The last one I had was a monkey stick FCH made in 1969, that I owned until about 15 years ago. Each of these three models of pickup, when used on a good quality acoustic archtop guitar, produces IMO the best sounding electric jazz tone--with the possible exception of the original, Gibson ES-150/250 with CC pickup.
I'm going to order a 1000 to use with my Gretsch. It should yield good results. It already has a screw-plugged hole for the volume knob, where someone else has already previously been using a DeArmond.
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So.. starting point / typical pot values would be 250K - 300K with a treble cap of .047uF like I would start with on a single coil? Wish Schatten thumbwheels came in something other than 500K. May resort to mini-pots on the pickguard for this one.
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I'm just planning to use a 250K pot for volume, with no tone pot.
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Just put a reissue 1100 in my jazzica. Broke the bar trying to bend it so its a sloppy double sided tape ordeal . Diggin the sound . Raw and lots of colour.
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I have some work to be done to my old New Yorker and I will get a 1000 RI for it.
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Originally Posted by FrankLearns
Keith
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Originally Posted by floatingpickup
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Originally Posted by floatingpickup
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Originally Posted by FrankLearns
The pickup is fantastic, turned this not so spectacular acoustic archtop into an awesome gigging jazz guitar.
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Schatten doesn't make their thumbwheels in 250K any more. Could be modded I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Spook410
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
Keith
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Originally Posted by Flat
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I'm not sure if this is a response to my post. If so, let me clarify.
As the volume pot is rolled down, often treble is more affected and the sound becomes darker.
You are certainly correct about the pot resistance and treble filtering in general. I got a great example of this when I bought an archtop that had a 50k pot accidentally placed in it. There was no treble. I couldn't even compensate for it with my amp.[
The 500k pot in my 1100 sounds fine. I was worried that there would be too much high frequency coming through. That's not the case IMO.
QUOTE=Para;546759]A 500k pot will give a brighter sound than a 250k not the other way round, the higher resistance stops more treble frequencies from escaping where as the 250k allows more treble bleed off giving a deeper sound which is why 250k pots are used mainly with single coils.[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by floatingpickup
Speaking of DeArmond 1100:
or floating pups
Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 07-06-2015 at 06:27 PM.
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Dang, Keith, your Campy sounds more opened up than the L-5C. I met Mr. Campellone years ago. He had some of his guitars on display. I played them, thinking how beautiful they were. At the time, I thought that they needed to be played a lot--they needed to open up. Compared to the other archtops I was seeing, at that point, the Campy seemed "tight."
Not so, with your beautiful example. Superb.
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Originally Posted by Greentone
here's more trouble too - Okay, so I'm a fan...whatever!
Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 07-06-2015 at 05:50 PM.
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
I don't know what the story is, really. I'm flying this one blind. All I have is this info from archtop.com.
It confirms the 11/32 depth you mentioned--and then recommends a minimum of 7/16 of clearance (i.e., 14/32).
[Sidenote: Right about now, the metric system sounds really good to me.]
So I don't know what to think. Probably the 2D MH would fit. It looks like I have about maybe 1/2" of clearance on my L7.
And not putting two screws in the neck would ease my mind...
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Armstrong Handmade "2-D" Micro-Humbucker -World's Thinnest Floating Pickup
Dimensions: Length- 2 11/16"; Width- 1 3/16"; Depth: 11/32". Minimum recommended string clearance: approx. 7/16" from guitar top to bottom of strings at the end of the fingerboard, with strings depressed at highest fret.
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