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I very much doubt that. I believe the Cubes have sold well over a million units. Not sure what to compare that to but it seems to me that it is one of Roland's flagships selling-wise.
Originally Posted by Atticus
Also from the telecaster forum I have noticed that lots of folks use and love the Cubes for other styles of music, even if they are somewhat less popular than the Mustangs.
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04-06-2012 03:20 PM
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Aniss my point was mainly on places like Europe or USA where you can find some amps like Yamaha G, Bandits, Fender 80s or old Cubes solid state amps for nice prices. To me they are much better than current Cubes but i do think most people here feel the opposite.
Right now here there's an old Cube selling for 150€. Of course reliability / parts might be a problem with a 20 year old amp.
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I agree these Cubes are everywhere, a winner product no doubt. Originally Posted by aniss1001
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I think the love is because its a cheap, loud,light and fairly clean amp that you can easily get very useable jazz tones from without any real hassle.
'Mike
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I know. And you have no idea how anxious I am to get back to Europe and buy meself a proper rig. Allthough I still have 1.5 years left here I'm allready planning what to buy Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
1st off a Hagstrom Viking (or perhaps some Ibanez semihollow) and then a Peavey Classic I believe (or maybe Delta Blues). They go for like $500 used in Denmark. And then I wanna look into getting a stereo reverb/delay and running it in stereo with an SS amp of some sort. The used market in Denmark is pretty good I think. People there have money in general and they don't much like buying used so you can get real bargains on older SS amps as you mentioned. Nothing like here 
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I would be looking forward to get back if I were you!
BTW tried an Hagstrom archtop recently and it looked and sounded very cheap... and I have a 300€ Cort that I like a lot!
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@Jorge
Oh I am. More than anything because I want some proper gear...
And I surprised to hear that about the Hagstrom. I know nothing of their hollows but the Viking (semihollow) I tried was awesome. And the reviews I've read about it has been favourable to say the least.
In fact of all the semihollows I tried it was the nicest IMO. I tried Corts, Epis, Washburns, Ibanezes AND a Gibson. The Gibson had a nicer pup though (the Hagstrom's are a tad bright). I believe the Ibanezes I tried were the AS73 and AS93 and AS100-and-something but I'm not sure (they have too many models).
It seems to me that the best bang for your buck would be Hagstrom or Ibanez. The Cort was actually better than the Epi I think but not by much. Still wouldn't buy it. Don't think I'll ever want to buy a guitar for less than $500 again. It's not worth the frustration.
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That's me. I have a Cube 80XL that I use as a backup amp when my Fender Princeton Reverb is in the shop for repairs. It's loud and clean. It's very directional, too, which is great for feedback control at higher volumes. Originally Posted by jscjr64
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Hehe... The question seems to be does ANYONE (except ClassicPlayer) actually use the modelling amps? Originally Posted by jscjr64
I have barely touched them. I try though. I would LIKE to like them because the JC clean channel lacks a gain knob so lately I've been using the tweed a bit. But it gets old pretty fast and I switch back to JC.
I do like the reverb, delay and looper though.
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You need to get your jazz lingo straight there. It's called a bluesMAN but in this genre it's a jazzCAT! Originally Posted by Jazzman301
Regards
The Jazz Police
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I usually play with the extension cab, with the volume and the gain set to 3 o'clock, and vary my guitar settings and my picking technique as appropriate. Granted, I have had a gig or two where I didn't have a proper soundcheck and I found out on my first solo that I needed to boost things, but for the most part it works. Originally Posted by FatJeff
I'm sure that Roland isn't suffering from lack of sales on the Cube, but it definitely seems like I see most of the support for the Cube coming from jazz players. It's certainly not because they're bad amps. However, I'd like to see exactly how the Cube series stacks up in sales figures against other lines. I know that around here I had to hunt through almost every music store in town until I found a used Cube to try, but everywhere they've got Mustangs, Twins and Deluxe Reverbs, some Vox models, and some Line 6 stuff. The better places have Marshalls and Mesas. Nobody carries jazz amps or full archtops because the jazz market is minimal around here. Why? People won't stock gear that doesn't sell. So what does that say about the Cube? Originally Posted by aniss1001
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I sold my Cube 30x. It was not bad for what it was, especially considering it's price, but I grew tired of the less than great reverb and the digital "feel" (as in lack of directness, a different response; somewhat slower maybe?). I did a lot of gigging and jamsessions with it, but more and more I felt the need for a better amp with a more direct feel. The Cube somehow always felt like it was taking away some of my playing. I did love the weight and portability: it was easy to carry around and I even strapped it to the back of my bike
I've read somewhere all the Cubes have a built-in limiter or noise gate that cuts off the notes at the end when you let them ring. I noticed that in mine too. Funnily enough I thought the Cube was much better in doing convincing dirty tones than really good cleans.
I got an 80ies made MosFet-amp with spring reverb back for it (Session Rockette 30) and I like that much better: good fast and direct response, no hiss, good reverb. It even does slightly overdriven tones very convincingly and has about the same portability.
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My experience with Hagström: Originally Posted by aniss1001
Two out of my four guitars are Hagströms. I have a Swede (lp-style) and a Viking (335-style). My impressions of these guitars are that the finish and construction is good, the pickups which are Hagströms own, are good also. The rest of the electronics, i.e. switches and pots are a bit cheap and gets scratchy quickly. Both guitars needed to have their frets leveled since they were too uneven to get that low action that Hagström boasts about. Perhaps I was just unlucky with that.
I think the Viking is a very versatile guitar. I only dabble in jazz, but for me it covers my needs there. I also play in a cover band and the Viking works for all kinds of material from classic rock and pop to Van Halen and Guns and Roses.
Lately though I have been bummed out about the semi-acoustic aspect of the sound when playing at lower volumes. For some reason now I don't like to hear the thin acoustic sound in combination with the amplified.
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I tend to believe that your are right in that the Rock/Metal side of my Micro Cube and 20X are more convincing than the cleaner channel. I wonder where Cube owners set the e.q. controls on their amps. I have experimented and written down settings for "Tube Drive", "Distortion", and "Metal Stack". I've found that with both single coil and humbucker guitars, I run the high's and bass almost on full and the mids less than noon. Of course this is at bedroom volume; usually about 10 o'clock or less and gain between 10:00 and noon. In the past, I was running the e.q. a lot lower and wondered why I was not happy with the resulting tone......... Originally Posted by Little Jay
Has anyone tried running the e.q. both lower and higher and compared their settings?
Classicplayer
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Maybe it was that particular guitar or my particular taste Originally Posted by aniss1001
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Actually, when I owned Cubes, I mostly used the Black Panel model. That's the Fender blackface model (like a twin reverb or similar). With the gain around 12-1:00 it had some life to it. I also used the JC model (channel 1) but not quite as often. Originally Posted by aniss1001
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I think the Cubes are decent (I have the 80XL) but only on the black face settings. I play a lot of styles, but mostly archtop style jazz these days. The rock and blues tones on the Cube are way too plastic for me... I have a Deluxe, a Twin, an Allen Old Flame and a 50 watt VHT 50ST for serious stuff, but bought a Cube for a traveling jazz gig. I still have it, but then bought a ZT Club for the same reason and would recommend that by far over the Cube for the same price range, as long as you run an EQ pedal through the loop. Really pretty nice archtop tone and volume.
In reality, I never play these amps at home, tubes are just such an integral part of great tone to me. But, I have never tried any more expensive solid states, FWIW.
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Through no fault of my own I have ended up with a pile of amps in my living room. I've got a ca. '73 Pro Reverb (which I have had for 25+ years), a Clarus 2r with RS-8 cab, a Cube 60 and an Egnater Rebel 30 (recent acquisition). I just sold my Mini-Brute II to make some room.
The Cube 60 has ended up being a very versatile amp. It matches up well with my Tele, pretty well with my nylon strings and OK to well with my archtops. The modeling section is handy- the "Acoustic" setting seems to e what works best with the nylon strings and the "Tweed" setting works great with Tele (keep the gain low is the secret for jazz). With judicious tweaking, the AC-30 modeling setting also can sound quite good for jazz. I don't like the JC clean channel for much of anything- but then I don't like the JC-120 much either. Both seem to be aiming as a Twin-type sound, which I don't generally like for jazz. Too pingy and a bit thin. I like a tweed-y or old Gibson GA-50 type sound best, warm and fat without the mids all scooped out. I'm just not hip to the times, man.
The Cube 60 has been dead reliable and plenty loud for gigs with trumpet and sax, electric bass and a drummer. Never a problem in that regard.
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Used to have a Cube 60. Agree that the Acoustic (with a touch of delay and chorus), Tweed, and Brit Combo models (both with gain at no more than 1/4) are the most pleasing.
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Cheap, Light, Reliable, No Body Wants to Steal It, Loud Enough Clean Channel...perfect for corporate gigs and gigs of that ilk.
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It's been a while since I A/B'ed the Cube 80XL and the ZT Club together, but my recollection is that the Club had a significantly greater amount of clean headroom. (180 or 200 watts RMS vs 120? - can't recall exact numbers - or is it an 80XL because it has 80 watts?)
The EQ on the Club is pretty mid-rangey, but as I mentioned, an EQ pedal in the loop makes it a completely different beast. For the size, weight, volume and tone, the Club with an EQ pedal would be something I'd grab first for a quick arch top gig or jam over the 80XL. Neither is a particularly good looking amp, and if you have a Club onstage, people will ask if you are feeling a bit chill!
(looks like an old space heater.)
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Just curious... headroom aside which one sounded BEST? Originally Posted by yebdox
And yes it's called a 80XL because it's 80w
PS: I like the looks of the cubes..
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Hi, Anniss,
I could get one pretty good sound out of the Club, that I could then vary with guitar tone and volume, as well as different picks and finger style. I think the Cube 80 is likely a bit more versatile with the tone spectrum, but playing with 2 horns, keyboards, a loud bass and drums, the Cube could barely keep up and the Club had volume to spare with the same band. But, the EQ pedal made all the difference. I wouldn't recommend the Club without it.
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@yebdox
Thanks for the info
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