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    Quote Originally Posted by AlsoRan
    I just ordered some of the Ultex 2.0s a week ago. I love the regular ultex, which I believe is 1.38 mm thick. I just want to get every advantage I can since I don't have time to practice 8 hours a day (like Jimmy Bruno states "real" Jazz guitarists should practice). I appreciate your sharing your thoughts.
    The Ultex 2.0 picks came in. I like the weight and extra thickness over the standard Ultex picks but I don't like that pointy edge. It reminds me of the Eric Johnson Dunlop picks.

    Did not here a click sound with this pick either. I just don't want to change my technique to compensate for point. But, if in the end I get better tone and better ability to solo, I may have to rethink things.

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    I like small thick picks. My favorite used to be Dunlop stubby, 3mm. I have tried tons of picks since then. Of the Dunkop Jazztones i only like the 205 which sound good and feel good. Others that i liked are V picks, red rubin. One continuing issue with all of those is grip. I don't hold them too stronglx in order to not cramp my right hand and they all move and rotate and slip which is very annoying.

    A few day ago i received a Wegen Gypsy and and Wegen twin pick. They are just unbelievably good. They have fantastic grip and tone. For the jazz guitars with flatwounds i totally dig the twin. It is small, just a little larger than a stubby. For my gypsy guitar the gypsy pick is unbelievably good. These picks are expensive but imho they are really worth it.

    ... Just my 0,02

  4. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by krusty
    Yep, my wife just came home with one worth $2k tonight. It's OK, a couple of overtime shifts will pay for it. I get to buy a new guitar later this year when I get home from a 3 week solo ski trip.
    Ha ha that's a very good trade-off... but sill 2k?! :/

  5. #54

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    I tested the Jazz tone yesterday rehearsing with my rock band (Ibanez semi hollow AS120+ SF Twin reverb and Boss pedal board) and all I can say, it rocks!!

  6. #55

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    I switched from the red nylon Jazz III's to the Ultex Jazz III's a while back. (I've used Stubby's and Jazztone 205's in the past as well - I like that shape.) I'm about to try the Ultex Jazz III's in the thicker 2mm variety - I'll let you guys know my impressions.

  7. #56

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    Interesting article about real tortoise shell picks: Tortoise Shell Guitar Picks | Pick Collecting Quarterly

  8. #57

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    OK, I tried the 2mm Ultex Jazz III's - I'm switching again! I've gone from Stubby's to JazzTone 205's, to red nylon Jazz III's, to the thinner version of the Ultex Jazz III's, to these. They feel like a cross between the red nylon Jazz III's and the JazzTone 205's - a good bit grippier, though. The sound is very clear (less muted) but not clicky (for me). Caveat: the point on these seems to be sharper than on any of the others mentioned above; I like that, but you may not.

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    Strangely, I've just done the opposite - trying Jazztone 207's as an alternative to Ultex Jazz III's. Still not sure yet - not had a chance to try them in an amplified situation, let alone a full rehearsal.

    They feel different, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating.....or in this case, the proof of the plectrum is in the playing.

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    Oops - I'm back to the regular Ultex Jazz III's (1.14mm, amber color). They seem to be more versatile than the 2.0mm black ones. But check with me next week!

  11. #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Karol
    Oops - I'm back to the regular Ultex Jazz III's (1.14mm, amber color). They seem to be more versatile than the 2.0mm black ones. But check with me next week!
    I'm into the Uletx Jazz III's- I feel crippled without them! I keep then in a Dunlop Picker's Pouch (key chain).

  12. #61

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    Because of the reviews here, I ordered a Wegen Gypsy, 3.5 mm. For the past several years I have been using Red Bear Trading picks exclusively. I was really surprised at the difference of the Wegen Gypsy and RBT Little Jazzer. I could not believe the fullness of my tone with the Wegen versus the RBT. The Wegen adds some horsepower that the RBT picks lacked, as well...I don't pick as hard to get volume. Wegen hs a new convert.

  13. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Kay
    Because of the reviews here, I ordered a Wegen Gypsy, 3.5 mm.
    Funny, i recently had a similar experience. Having been a long term Dunlop stubby user my main complaint always was that it was slipping off my hand when playing fast. I ordered a Wegen twin that is only slightly larger than a stubby (but a fair bit thicker). The first moment i held it in my hand it seemed to "fuse" with my fingers and felt like i never had any other pick in my hand. I totally love the feeling of playing with this pick and the tone it creates. There are also subtle nuances in tone and attack that one can obtain from slightly varying the pick angle.

    These picks are very expensive - but it one considers the money we all enjoy to spend on guitars and amps and other equipment i find the that such a big improvement in playing comfort and tone is worth it. (it was similar for playing my gypsy guitar with a Wegen Gypsy pick - fantastic, very natural feeling)

  14. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyPac
    I'm into the Uletx Jazz III's- I feel crippled without them! I keep then in a Dunlop Picker's Pouch (key chain).
    Ultex picks have to be the best cheap picks ever. They're like tortoise shell, sound-wise (to me), and don't wear out, and they 50 cents!

    I buy the 1.14 "normal" shape and play with the back rounded corner.

    For a couple of my guitars, I've lately learned to use the 3 mm V-picks while (somehow!) suppressing the awful clicking. Love 'em, esp. for Freddie comping. Big fat sound, and no string drag.

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    You guys use the same pics playing plugged or unplugged? I find they are totally different worlds. For electrics I use 2.0 mm Ultex or Tortex, but haven't fully explored my options yet. Since I mostly play acoustics I made extensive tests so any times in the last years. After trying dozens and dozens of different picks I always go back to Dunlop 3 mm XL Primetones and 2.0 mm Gators. Though they still sound good when I go electric, I don't use to choose them. For some reason I want somewhat brighter pics instead... Or should I say thinner sounding.
    Last edited by Snap; 01-23-2012 at 03:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snap
    You guys use the same pics playing plugged or unplugged? I find they are totally different worlds. For electrics I use 2.0 mm Ultex or Tortex, but haven't fully explored my options yet. Since I mostly play acoustics I made extensive tests so any times in the last years. After trying dozens and dozens of different picks I always go back to Dunlop 3 mm XL Primetones and 2.0 mm Gators. Though they still sound good when I go electric, I don't use to choose them. For some reason I want somewhat brighter pics instead... Or should I say thinner sounding.
    I'm primarily an acoustic player too, Snap - archtops at that. I guess it's string type that determines my pick choice right now. My main acoustic archtop has Thomastik Infeld "Plectrum" strings - this has to be the world's weirdest set of strings: plain, flat-wound, half-wound, and round-wound, all in one set! But mostly, they're smooth and squeakless, so I use the V-pick.

    On burnished or flatwound strings, the V-Pick is it.

    However, it doesn't work for me on round-wounds. Too much clickety-clackety, drive me crazy.

    On flat top acoustics and on electrics with round-wounds (which I almost never play) I use the Ultex. I like Ultex so much, sometimes I'll use it instead of the big V Pick.

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    You are right, Thomastik Plectrums and Spectrums are a different breed. I like them a lot but don't use them too often because they last for short. Ultex held reversed (rounder tips) work fine for me on the Thomastik strings. Never the pointy tip. And they sound more articulate and clear than the Gators or Primetones, but the Primetones sound fatter yet clear whatever tip you use. Most of the times I prefer the Primetones. Apparently a copy attempt of the Wegen GypsyJazz. I don't know how they compare tonally. It's been a long time since I lost my Wegen. I'll have to grab one to directly compare them... but I remember it quite clickey.

  18. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Karol
    Oops - I'm back to the regular Ultex Jazz III's (1.14mm, amber color). They seem to be more versatile than the 2.0mm black ones. But check with me next week!
    We'll it is next week, and I still can't decide between the 1.14mm and 2.0mm versions though I am sure I like them better than Dunlop's other iterations of the same shape, so I've decided not to decide - I'm going to use both for awhile and see where that leads. Then again, if I happen to come across a Wegen somewhere ...

  19. #68

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    For amplified playing I have tried a lot of picks, but always come back to Dunlop Jazz Tone 205. The Dunlop primetone 3mm in the same shape as the 205 is also good. The 5mm version of the primetone is useless to me. For acoustic "Freddie" rhythm comping, I have settled on Dunlop Ultex 1.14mm triangular.

    BTW, I tend to drop the somewhat slippery Ultex picks (Tortex are even worse in that respect), but a thin layer of "Shoe Goo" smeared on the center of the pick to dry up as a rubbery coat improves the grip considerably.

  20. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldane
    BTW, I tend to drop the somewhat slippery Ultex picks (Tortex are even worse in that respect), but a thin layer of "Shoe Goo" smeared on the center of the pick to dry up as a rubbery coat improves the grip considerably.
    I happen to have some Shoe Goo and Ultex picks kicking around, I'm going to have to try this. Thanks for the idea!

  21. #70

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Kay
    Because of the reviews here, I ordered a Wegen Gypsy, 3.5 mm. For the past several years I have been using Red Bear Trading picks exclusively. I was really surprised at the difference of the Wegen Gypsy and RBT Little Jazzer. I could not believe the fullness of my tone with the Wegen versus the RBT. The Wegen adds some horsepower that the RBT picks lacked, as well...I don't pick as hard to get volume. Wegen hs a new convert.
    For Gypsy Jazz, the Wegens are remarkable.

    You might like the Dugain and "Moustache" picks as well...the Dugain sounds a little softer, better for chord melody type gypsy jazz stuff...to my ears, the moustache is the ultimate gypsy jazz lead guitar pick--however, I do not like it as much for rhythm.

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    I've tried so many different pics over the years and the Dunlop Jazz III Red Nylon 1.38mm is the one I always come back to and prefer to use.

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    I'm near the beginning of my pick journey, only been using them a year. I had a couple different ones but never liked any of them very much until my guitar teacher lent me one of his, one of these:

    Wegen Big City Picks 2.2mm (4 Pack)

    They really are great, feel and sound so much better than any others I've tried, I bought two off him and haven't lost one yet. Some day I'm going to buy one of every type of pick I can find and try them all out but until then these are great.

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    I use Dunlop Max-Grip Jazz 3 but recently i realize that its little bit small for me .
    Can someone please tell me one pick for jazzy tone (I am using Sadowsky semi-hollow & Gibson ES-165) which IS NOT SLPPERY (i hate this feeling)??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcis
    I use Dunlop Max-Grip Jazz 3 but recently i realize that its little bit small for me .
    Can someone please tell me one pick for jazzy tone (I am using Sadowsky semi-hollow & Gibson ES-165) which IS NOT SLPPERY (i hate this feeling)??????
    1 Red Bear Big Jazzer (various thicknesses available)
    2 Blue Chip BC Jazz LG (various thicknesses available)

    Both of these will not slip at all.

    The Red Bear has a slightly brighter sound.
    The Blue Chip will help accuracy more so than the Red Bear.
    They are both incredibly comfortable.

    I have a stupidly large collection of Wegen, Blue Chip, Red Bear, V-Pick.
    Multiple styles of each.

    Red Bear and Blue Chip are my personal favourites.
    If I HAD to choose just one it would be the BlueChip BC-Jazz LG. I change from the 35, 40, 50, 60 depending on my mood.
    If I had to choose one it would be the 60.

    Yes it's a $35 plectrum.
    Yes it's worth every cent and then some.
    It's not obscene, it's a part of the instrument. The part that touches the strings and begins the sound.
    Last edited by Philco; 01-24-2012 at 12:06 AM.

  26. #75

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcis
    I use Dunlop Max-Grip Jazz 3 but recently i realize that its little bit small for me .
    Can someone please tell me one pick for jazzy tone (I am using Sadowsky semi-hollow & Gibson ES-165) which IS NOT SLPPERY (i hate this feeling)??????
    Of the pics I have tried, the ones with the best grip are dunlop max grip jazz pics (the ones made of carbon fibre)

    Edit: Just reread your post.. sorry. I am a knob...
    Last edited by SamBooka; 01-23-2012 at 10:54 PM.