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Originally Posted by bananafist
Re JLV's stuff, you're right - I found a few in stock models on his website at about that sort of price. Worth every penny I'm certain, but too much for me!
Has anyone tried the Dell'Arte guitars by the way? I have found Foulds music in the UK, plus a few other retailers selling these at around £550 which is maybe £100 to £150 or so less than the standard Gitanes. Maybe I might just stretch to one if there is an appreciable gain over the Ciganos. Also there is a 14 fret D-hole Dell'Arte model which I find appealing.
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06-22-2011 01:25 PM
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maybe you should consider getting a 'special' gitane, used.
i sold my jorgenson for something like 800 euros.
and it's definately much better than a DG255
lulo model is also good, but the neck is really thin, i didn't liked that particular thing about itLast edited by add4; 06-22-2011 at 01:47 PM.
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Originally Posted by add4
Plus a couple of other relevant clips:
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Sounds pretty decent to me, maybe more accent on volume and 'bark' than tone, but you can't have everything. sounds like a a good choice, make sure to try one (the one you buy!!) before buying it. and have fun.
Peace
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Originally Posted by add4
Thanks also for the advice to try anything I might be thinking of buying - I will do that - I guess the only way to be at all sure I'm not making a huge mistake!
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If you can, get a friend who plays to go with you. I find it helps to listen to someone else playing the guitar/s you're interested in, as well as playing them yourself, you get an idea of how it sounds to an audience.
Enjoy it, anyway, and let us know which you choose.
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Originally Posted by bananafist
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I bought a "gerome", not a selmer design, but a very good value for 300euros.
The production is over but you can find an used one on the net.
The sound is very nice for swing and gypsy music.
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This sure looks like a heck of a deal at $295:
Saga Cigano GJ-0 STUDENT GYPSY JAZZ GUITAR - PETITE BOUCHE STYLE JAZZ GUITAR (Laminate Top)
The seller is a very reputable dealer in Seattle.
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THat is a good deal--however I've heard (not been able to try for myself) that the solid top Cigano's are a big step up in tone...
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Has anyone had experience with electro acoustic gypsy guitars and can recommend one?
I tried a gitane signature JJ model today (also known as the DG 300) and I was blown away with it compared to the cheap model gitanes. Problem is it would never leave the house cas it is only acoustic and im a gigging musician so was wondering if anyone knew a good electro-acoustic alternative? (ideally under £800/$1,300)
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How much was the jj? I"d grab that and a soundhole pickup like a stimer or peche a la mouche.
Crank the volume for solos...keep it low for rhythm...
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Not tried them, but these seem v. nice guitars, and they are largely handbuilt in the UK and the electric sound with the bridge pickup is quite impressive - to my ears.
JWC Guitars Ltd
I'd certainly like one!
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Most gigging gypsy jazzers use an added amplification system.
in general, amplifying gypsy jazz guitar is a pain since they reconate a lot and 'bark' they also feedback very easily.
Common choices are stimer or peche a la mouche, or acoustic small microphones into the guitar. Most professionals still prefer using a good microphone in front of the guitar when they play on big venues.
I'd go for a peche a la mouche if i had to reinvest the money i've already invested
If you are going for a JJ, i'd advise to try to find a second hand REAL gypsy guitar hand built. The sound gap is the same between than between the Standard gitane and the JJ.
in general, the gitanes have too much bass (this sounds good played alone, NOT good in a band), and are 'slow' (notes do not come out of the guitar as fast and suddenly as in real gypsy guitars.
I haven't tried the new ones, i had a standard gitane and a JJ a few years ago, bought a dupont 3 years ago and i couldn't go back
Hope that helps
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The gitane's are as real as you can get on a budget.
You're right though, gypsy jazz guitars are still one of those things where you get what you pay for...but I 5think gitane does a good job...my dg320 holds its own.
And yeah, the peche a la mouche is a great pickup.
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Thanks for the quick replies!
The gitane was close to £900 which is a little pricey. Depending on how bad my GAS gets I'll keep an eye out for a secound hand one.... I always prefer acoustics played it and I could save a lot.
Being that I am mainly an electric guitarist, I couldnt really justifty spending much more!
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I have both a cigano gj 10 and a gitane lulo reinhardt... and honestly I think the cigano sounds wayyyy better, its so much louder and it has much more of that gypsy tone! I think it may be partly the set up, I've been to lazy to set up my gitane like it should be, but also its just so beautiful, I just want to look at it and not play it. Whereas I really love to just really play my cigano with EMOTION! You can mess up your cigano and not really care and anyways it makes it so much more gypsy! But the gitane... Cigano's are really nice!
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I have a Gitane D-hole I'm very happy with but the cheaper Cigano gets excellent reviews.
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Originally Posted by jbd92
Sometimes a guitar just works for us.
Do get that Lulo a good set up though...that's what my duo partner uses, and it sounds amazing...and VERY loud...
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Yes I really need to since I spent so much on it! The person I bought it from had it set up with very low action which I think also accounts for how quiet it is...
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Yep...that's such a big trade off on gypsy jazz guitars...mine is definitely a little tougher to play than my other guitars, but the trade off in tone is worth it.
(plus, my ego loves how after I play my Selmer style for an hour I can pick up one of my other guitars and really burn!)
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I don't know if this is still on but, if I'm not mistaken, the original thread was about looking for a Selmer style guitar to play chord-melody and fingerpicking. Which is not a good match and might lead to rather disappointing results.
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Not necessarily Uli-- check out some videos of boulou ferre playing classical pieces on his eimers, or fapy lafertin playing solo pieces on anything.
I think the selmer style is far from a one trick pony.
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Originally Posted by whippersnapper
selmer,busato,favino,jp favino,j.b castellucia,dupont,eimers,dunn,park,ajl,mjs,ald,jw c,freschi,holo,marin,hahl,barault,zwinakis,la fee,boonstra,dell arte,collins,shopis,di mauro,and theyre are alot more as well but those are some good ones.if you want a cheaper one i recommend the manouche latcho drom,altimera,dell arte pigalle,personally not a big fan of gitanes but alot of people do like them.
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Originally Posted by bmw2002
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