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Never really got on with blues jr’s for some reason.
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05-22-2026 04:09 PM
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I'm not much of an EL84 guy either. I'd rather have something using 6v6's. If he's considering a new princeton tonemaster his 1200 dollar budget leaves quite a few options including a used SF Twin, LOL.
Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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6v6 is too loud for tone to matter anymore.
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6v6 has been used in a ton of lower watt 15-20 watt amps. Not sure what you even mean. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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There's an amp I think is really a piece of useless crap. I fell for the hype and regretted it.
But, one of the players on this forum who I admire the most really likes it.
I hope that illustrates the problem of relying on somebody else's recommendation when it comes to amps.
And, while some players can apparently tell one tube type from another, or particle board from oak, I can't reliably distinguish solid state from tubes. I can get a good enough sound from either. Meaning, by the time I'm done with adjusting things, I get close enough to my usual sound.
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I meant "AC" to refer to Aviator Cub, (AC10=Vox AC10); didn't mean to introduce confusion on that front ... Hypothetically, the Aviator Cub's DI is identical to the Superblock's (the only difference between the two amps is the power sections). Originally Posted by Christian Miller
I generally prefer DAW plug-ins to to DI'ing an amp. Much less trouble, much more control, usually a better sound. I used to use the GarageBand plugins (which are the same as Logic's), but now use S-Gear. Somewhat better, IMO.
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I have tried to like the Blues Jr. I owned three of them over the years. But I just don't get the jazz tone from them that I want I am a 6V6 or 6L6 guys it seems.
I have given up on tube amps. They are heavy and require more maintenance than I want to deal with and today we have solid state amps that sound way better than the solid state amps that were available 40 years ago.
I have tried the Tonemaster amps but I have gone with Quilter. I do think that the Tonemaster amps get closer to the classic Fender amp sounds, but I like the Quilter sound as well or better as the Fender sound, and the Quilters have a lot of tone shaping tools that the Fenders lack. I suspect that the Quilters might last a bit longer being non-digital, but Dawgbone is right. In 20 years, all of these new amps will cost more to fix than they will be worth. If I can get 20 years out of the amps that I have (2 Quilters and a Henriksen), I will be happy to still be here and need a new amp! And frankly, I don't see too many of the new production tube amps with their printed circuit boards lasting much more than 20 years in any case.
You can go Dawgbone's route and buy older P2P Fender tube amps of the heavy variety (Twins Supers or Pros) for reasonable money, but I think you will need two important connections, a good amp tech and a good Chiropractor.
. If you go that route, you can get classic tube tone and an amp that can be fixed and used for decades. There are boutique makers that can make a new version of the lighter tube amps, but even used, these can get quite expensive. And then there is the question of tubes. How much longer will they even be made. I know a few guys who love tube amps and have stockpiled enough tubes to last 100 years (talk about looking after your kids!).
Honestly, for a cat like the OP who is starting out, I think John A. is spot on with the Quilter Cub US. That amp has enough oomph to play all but the loudest gigs, it sounds great at low volume and it has so many tone options (3 band EQ, 3 different voices and some built in compression). Consider me a +1 on that amp.
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OK, the OP is a beginner looking for an amp to practice with in his office. Not a gigging amp (e.g., a Fender Twin), not an amp for distorted blues-rock tones (the Blues Jr. is aimed at that). The TM amps are great for clean tones and take pedals well. While I have used a tweed Deluxe at home and for gigs for years, my current amp of choice is a DV Mark Raw Dawg EB250 and a TOOB Metro BG+ cab. Sounds great, clean tones as good as any I have ever heard.
But that's more complicated than the OP is asking for. A buddy I play with every week has a TM Deluxe Reverb which is also a fantastic sounding amp; he plays bass through a Rumble and I use the TMDR and it sounds and feels great. He also has a BF'd silverface Twin, but the TMDR is better at living room volumes. While Twins have their devotees who like to play them cranked to 10, for 90% of guitar players that's like using a sledgehammer to crack walnuts.
Make it simple- just pick the TM or the Blues Jr. Doesn't matter which, both will do what you want them to do and more as your skills improve. Whichever you can get at the best price will do you fine.
Also, the "tube amp maintenance" thing people talk about is way overblown.
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Nice Ampeg Gemini 1, the old style tolex. Will look great in the office, keep working and is lighter than a fender.
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Well apparently nerves are easily rattled over this subject,Lol!
We all have strong opinions about what we like.
All I can say is the Quilter Aviator 100 watt in various configurations has served me well every situation.
From duo,trio, to full blown loud with drummer gigs,for over 12 years now. Always the same great CleanTone at any venue,any volume depending on cab choice.
No maintenance required, light weight,great Line Out!
So used,since they don’t offer them new it’s Bargain!
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Oh another thing - I don’t really like the way the Quilters take drive pedals. The TM does this very well.
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I have a tone master twin and really like it. But my 'bedroom' amp is a Champion 40 and it's a very flexible amp at a silly low price (under $200). It does a very nice fender clean and everything from there to flat out metal with a range of effects as well, and weighs 19 pounds with its 12" speaker. I have a few amps I would part with before selling it, including vintage fender tube amps $1000 more expensive. Just a thought, there are probably YouTubes about it. Fine little do everything amp
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