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    Anyone ever tried one for playing jazz?

    Because it is a modelling amp, these so many tones available. The three amp models I am playing with right now, are '65 Deluxe, Roland Jazz Chorus, and '65 Twin. The last one originally was created by Fender I think, and called "Jazz Clean". It is interesting because they switch the speaker cabinet to a 2x12 Supersonic.

    I am adding a few effects to these models. I always add a Reverb (often Large Hall), and also Tremelo and Chorus. Fender added a Delay/echo which I am not sure I like.

    In the end, having a 100 watt amp, modeling some classic real amps, allows for as clean a sound as you would ever need.

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    I like to set the delay so that it is barely noticeable, throw in a little compression and reverb and no tremelo nor chorus. Then play with the eq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4zz
    Anyone ever tried one for playing jazz?

    Because it is a modelling amp, these so many tones available. The three amp models I am playing with right now, are '65 Deluxe, Roland Jazz Chorus, and '65 Twin. The last one originally was created by Fender I think, and called "Jazz Clean". It is interesting because they switch the speaker cabinet to a 2x12 Supersonic.

    I am adding a few effects to these models. I always add a Reverb (often Large Hall), and also Tremelo and Chorus. Fender added a Delay/echo which I am not sure I like.

    In the end, having a 100 watt amp, modeling some classic real amps, allows for as clean a sound as you would ever need.
    I have the Champion 20, which has the same amp models as the Mustang series, but with fewer effects and without ability to save presets. I think it sounds great (and I much prefer the simpler controls). I use the Deluxe Reverb voice and a little bit of reverb. I use it as my "grab and go" for gigs, jams, etc. in small spaces. I find that even 20 watts is enough. Probably not loud/clean enough for something like a loud fusion group, big band, or an organ trio with a real B3/Leslie and a loud drummer, but it hangs with any group where the overall volume level is set by un-mic'ed drums and horns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    I have the Champion 20, which has the same amp models as the Mustang series, but with fewer effects and without ability to save presets. I think it sounds great (and I much prefer the simpler controls). I use the Deluxe Reverb voice and a little bit of reverb. I use it as my "grab and go" for gigs, jams, etc. in small spaces. I find that even 20 watts is enough. Probably not loud/clean enough for something like a loud fusion group, big band, or an organ trio with a real B3/Leslie and a loud drummer, but it hangs with any group where the overall volume level is set by un-mic'ed drums and horns.
    Yeah 20 watts is quite reasonable. I gigged with a Roland Cube 30 watt for a while.

    I did not know about this Chamion 20 modelling amp version. I will check it out, thanks. If the modeling allows you to change speaker cabinets, try the '65 deluxe, with the '57 deluxe cabinet. I am not sure, but I think is little bit nicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamScott
    I like to set the delay so that it is barely noticeable, throw in a little compression and reverb and no tremelo nor chorus. Then play with the eq.
    Yes, if I keep the delay in the mix, I keep it turned WAY down. I haven't spent enough time playing with compression. Didn't like it at first though.

    As for tremolo, I don't know why more jazz doesn't use it (again only at low levels ike delay)

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4zz
    Yeah 20 watts is quite reasonable. I gigged with a Roland Cube 30 watt for a while.

    I did not know about this Chamion 20 modelling amp version. I will check it out, thanks. If the modeling allows you to change speaker cabinets, try the '65 deluxe, with the '57 deluxe cabinet. I am not sure, but I think is little bit nicer.
    No it doesn’t allow you to select speaker models. It’s much more basic than the Mustang.

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    John, Do you think the Champion 20 would work with a full big band?

    I play in one with unamplified upright piano. I don't have to be super loud for comping, but I have to get the solos over the horn backgrounds.

    The drums are unamplified but, as you might imagine, not quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
    John, Do you think the Champion 20 would work with a full big band?

    I play in one with unamplified upright piano. I don't have to be super loud for comping, but I have to get the solos over the horn backgrounds.

    The drums are unamplified but, as you might imagine, not quiet.
    Maybe but with a full on big band horn section you might not be able to keep it fully clean. But they also make a Champion 50, which I think would be fine.
    Last edited by John A.; 03-28-2026 at 10:23 PM.

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    I have just been reading about the Champion. I see now that they have aimed to make it all controllable from the front panel, including amp choice. This makes it very similar to the Roland Cube I used to use, except I expect they are using the digital amp modelling (cut-down) that is in the Mustangs. Sounded good in the youtube clip I watched.

    The nice thing about all these digital amps, is of course, the weight. Even my Mustang, with a 12" speaker, is very light and small.

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    I brought a Champion 40 (19 pounds/8.6kg) to rock band practice for a few weeks in '24 I think, which what what finally got me to get a TM Twin. Volume wise it was surprisingly fine with another guitar, keys, bass and drums. It's my living room amp now, and the one I usually play through if I plug in later in the evening. Does almost everything and was extremely reasonably priced as well.

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    Didn't realise there was an amp also called a Mustang - which I why I posted the above video of me playing a Fender Mustang guitar!

    But as it happens, I have a Fender Champion 40 and it's a good amp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim777
    I brought a Champion 40 (19 pounds/8.6kg) to rock band practice for a few weeks in '24 I think, which what what finally got me to get a TM Twin. Volume wise it was surprisingly fine with another guitar, keys, bass and drums. It's my living room amp now, and the one I usually play through if I plug in later in the evening. Does almost everything and was extremely reasonably priced as well.
    The Tonemaster version of the twin must be nice. I used the twin model on the Mustang for loud clean sounds, but it also does jazz.