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    Ive read a bunch of threads and Ive tried a number of picks out there.

    Im open to suggestions but Im not buying a 40 dollar pick.

    Here is my goal: Im playing a carve archtop its mostly plugged in. I play roundwounds (TI Bebops) with a single coil pu. I love the resonance of roundwounds. I have tened to find that the low E string just sounds too muffled with picks 1.3 and up. I guess its too much friction. I have also found that the thicker Dunlops tend to color the sound pretty heavily and a little less so with a sharper tip.

    Honestly, Im about to go back to a cheapo Fender Heavy or Gibson ex heavy since the gibsons are a little heavier than the Fender Heavy but thinner than the Fender x heavy. They offer good string separation and they dont seem to add a lot of coloration to the tone...yes, the fancy picks sound wamer and fatter but then again, some definition is lost.

    I dont need a ton of attack but I dont want it to disappear. I tried some tortex and I tossed them accross the room. The closest fancier pick I found was the Primetone John Petrucci but it tends to add something on top that sounds just a little nasal...not as much as a couple of other primetones but still....

    I also tried nylon for a while but its not in the running at all. Really dont want a pick to define my mix. I love the guitar, I love the strings and pickup but the right pick?

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    I came to love smaller picks many years ago, when I started using a Jazz III in my primarily metal days. I’ve tried many over the years and I always end up coming back to the Jim Dunlop Jazztone 205.


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    I like the smaller size also. The primetone Im using is small. I cut the Fender picks down to Jazz III size also. The full size just seems a little clumsey. I realize my low note issue with thick picks is, in part, my right hand technique and I think my attack on the top string is a little too much of an angle. However, when I keep the angle proper there are signicicant differences in the sould of the low e with roundwounds. The roundwound resonance kind of gets muffled.

    I may give Jazztones a try. The point may help keep the definition I want. In the EU a shop in the Netherlands, "Lord of the Strings", offers sales on individual picks at uninflated prices. So I can try a bunch of picks and end up with dozens of unused picks that I dont like. His shop is also handy becuase its one of the few that carry the TI individual strings. He gives great service so he deserves a "Shout out".

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    I too favor the 'Jazz 3' shape. There's a fairly wide variety of manufacturers to choose from.
    Depending on the instrument I use Blue Chip, Wegen, Gravity, or Dunlop picks. Try everything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Karol
    I too favor the 'Jazz 3' shape. There's a fairly wide variety of manufacturers to choose from.
    Depending on the instrument I use Blue Chip, Wegen, Gravity, or Dunlop picks. Try everything!
    Great ideas, but the OP said he's unwilling to try the fancy stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan


    I came to love smaller picks many years ago, when I started using a Jazz III in my primarily metal days. I’ve tried many over the years and I always end up coming back to the Jim Dunlop Jazztone 205.


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    I've used the 204 rounded tip version for years. I can't use anything else at this point so I have bags strategically placed in different cases, pouches, etc. And of course in the dryer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Karol
    I too favor the 'Jazz 3' shape. There's a fairly wide variety of manufacturers to choose from.
    Depending on the instrument I use Blue Chip, Wegen, Gravity, or Dunlop picks. Try everything!
    This is the way.The only way to know what fits your playing style and sound is to try a variety of picks.I have everything from high end Blue Chips,Red Bear to the lower end Fender medium and have used them all with different guitars and strings.One thing i can never understand is when guys are willing to pay thousands for a guitar,$40 for strings but cheap out when investing in a pick.One general rule of thumb i folllow is the George Benson notion of lighter pick on heavy strings,heavier pick on lighter strings.

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    I dont mind spending a few bucks on a pick but 40 is a bit out of my general comfort zone and sense of value. There are more picks than I will try for well under 10 bucks a pop. To be honest, I dont think a 40 buck pick is going to make me a better player. Im just hunting a "Go-To" solution. Im sure something out there will do that.

    Celluloid is just a bit harsh on the unwound strings. Ive been playing the past hour on a primetone small triangle. Its does tend to add more overtones than I want but damn its comfortable. Im not a speed deamon but I can do runs almost without thinking about it with that pick.

    Ive also realized the obvious that I was over looking: I need to eq differently between picks...just a tad, but it makes a difference. Im going to try a more but even though this pick is a littler larger than I normally play the ballance is just SO easy.

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    One great thing about Blue Chip picks is that they last forever.If you find one that fits your style it will be cheaper than buying bags of cheaper picks over a lifetime.I have found Blue Chips to have the least amount of pick noise and they just have this gliding feeling when used on flatwound strings.I'm sure a lot of us balked the first time buying Thomastik strings but we found out it was worth the price.I find it crazy when people spend $40 or more on Starbucks in a week,paying $40 for a pick that lasts forever seems more worthwhile to me.

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    This *might* be of interest if you find celluloid too harsh. I’m just an amateur player, so take what I say with a pinch of salt, or ignore it completely!

    I have used the tiny Fender/Gibson 358 “heavy” picks for many years on my jazz boxes - I think they are celluloid and about 1mm thick? I recently wanted a heavier pick for my Maccaferri copy so bought a few 1.5mm D’Andrea Pro Plecs of the same height and width. The Pro Plecs are thermoplastic(??) and definitely more mellow than the Fender/Gibson picks, so while they are cool picks they weren’t right for my Maccaferri, but something in the Pro Plec range might be worth a try if celluloid is too bright? - you can get them from Lord of the Strings.

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    I do use the Thomastik strings but here in the EU the bebobs are 18 a set and flats are a buck or two more.

    If I had the chance to walk in and try blue chips I might but its not like the old days where you can walk into a store and the owner pulls out several flats of picks where you can try them and grab those that hold your interest enough to take home.

    Bill, I may give the Pro Plecs a try. I dont want a lot less brightness...just a little so something around 1mm in a material thats a little warmer may do the trick. Its worth trying.

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    I like the Dunlop JazzTone picks also. Another one that I like is the Ernie Ball Prodigy 2.0 mini (jazz size). It comes in different shapes and sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddels
    I like the Dunlop JazzTone picks also. Another one that I like is the Ernie Ball Prodigy 2.0 mini (jazz size). It comes in different shapes and sizes.
    I like the Prodigy picks too. They are probably my second choice after the JD 205. The Prodigy is a really good choice for someone who prefers a more slick feeling pick compared to the JazzTone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc chaz
    One great thing about Blue Chip picks is that they last forever.If you find one that fits your style it will be cheaper than buying bags of cheaper picks over a lifetime.I have found Blue Chips to have the least amount of pick noise and they just have this gliding feeling when used on flatwound strings.I'm sure a lot of us balked the first time buying Thomastik strings but we found out it was worth the price.I find it crazy when people spend $40 or more on Starbucks in a week,paying $40 for a pick that lasts forever seems more worthwhile to me.
    I guess I don't understand the mentality of being willing to drop a grand (and often substantially more) on a nice archtop, and then a decent amp, which also isn't inexpensive, but having a problem with trying a $40 pick. In the world of picks that really isn't very expensive tbh.

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    I find the Dunlop John Petrucci Ultex jazz 3 the best of the cheap picks, and regular Fender Heavy picks are a close second.
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    Picks are very subjective, though. What you like isn't necessarily what I like. I use Blue Chip picks about 90% of the time. I make a wish list on the Blue Chip website, and provide that to family and friends who ask what I want for Xmas and birthday. I've bought a few, but most of the ones I have were gifts. My kids are happy enough to buy a $30 gift for me. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    ...I use Blue Chip picks about 90% of the time. I make a wish list on the Blue Chip website, and provide that to family and friends who ask what I want for Xmas and birthday. I've bought a few, but most of the ones I have were gifts. My kids are happy enough to buy a $30 gift for me.
    Me too!

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    I try to stay away from the tortoise/turtle shell picks because they are slow.

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    It seems that warping is becoming a more common problem (or more widely recognized and acknowledged) -

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    I dont need that pick. Im alread warped.

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    Haven’t seen warping in casein picks 1.5 mm and thicker. Thin ones often curl over time.

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    I like the ultex line of Jazz IIIs. But back when I played regularly I depended on Planet Waves Black Ice and Tortex Jazz IIIs. However, I will say I’ve drank—as of last year—the Blue Chip Cool-aid and am a firm believer now. They feel great in the hand after long sessions, smooth reaction on the strings, and come in a nice variety of shapes. Though, I do for whatever reason go up to their 2mm size as opposed to my usual 1.5mm max.

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    Big fan of Dunlop Jazztone.
    For better grip I have to drill a hole in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two5one
    Big fan of Dunlop Jazztone.
    For better grip I have to drill a hole in it.
    These have been around for a good while......

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