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09-09-2025 09:33 PM
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I love some of these dealers.It's posted for 9 years and they are still hoping and waiting for that one rich idiot to buy it.You would think for that price they could at least have included free shipping.
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There are several things I don't need. One of them is a Super 400 with a Bigsby. I have the scratch, if the k is removed, but even that much would be too much for me.
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It's the same imprint of the rich, you buy a Ferrari for 250,000 dollars... well, that's just a mechanical/technological device that takes you from point "A" to point "B" (very quickly, of course) but, if when you got on at point "A" you were an idiot, when you get off at point "B" you will still be an idiot!
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These sort of situations always remind me of a cartoon I saw ~40-something years ago. Big banquet hall with lots of tables, but all empty, and there's a giant banner across the stage that says "$1,000,000 a plate fundraiser!"
Originally Posted by nyc chaz
And two lone figures standing in front of the stage are talking, one says "Yeah, but we only have to sell one plate!"
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Every vintage guitar store has an impossibly expensive classic on display, usually in a vitrine. It draws in customers, who look at it longingly before trying and buying guitars at more realistic prices. Originally Posted by nyc chaz
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9 years, woah, that's got to be a record, the website itself is about 12 years old now. Originally Posted by nyc chaz
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I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but I got back into bicycling this summer. and that has soaked up all of my loose cash!
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Aw, c’mon guys! They dropped the price from $99,500 to $95k. That’s a healthy compromise that says they’re serious about selling it
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Vitrine…great word thanks…had to look it up! Wonderful guitar but the price!
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Ah! but, free shipping! Originally Posted by [email protected]
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If (like in the old days), one had to pay to advertise an item for sale, we would not be seeing most of the guitars posted to EBay or Reverb.
And certainly not this one. At least not at that absurd price.
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Actually they are charging $500 for shipping. Originally Posted by SOLR
Ah! but, free shipping!
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I literally have no idea, what is a price range that would be normal/fair currently?
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Not sure if I'd take it to the local open mic night
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sure it's priced high but Gibson shipped 8 in '59. that's one more than 7 and one less than 9 for those keeping track.
if you compare it to what people are asking for 50s plank Strats, Teles, plywood 335's etc, 40-80K, that number in the hundreds on the production totals is it really that much for a handmade carved guitar from an intrinsic standpoint and yeah, I know intrinsic value is just that and doesn't drive the market
now I'm not paying that much for any guitar, I think the real market value is quite a bit less than 1/2 that but let's not forget the non cut Super 400 that Gary was selling for 85K recently that didn't last 2 weeks on the market.
I'm not a fan of Bigsbys and heel stingers anyway.
it's not costing him anything to advertise/fish and if someone, just one person, makes an offer the seller deems acceptable, mission accomplished...
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For that kind of scratch they are asking for that guitar i could buy an original D'aquisto and D'angelico and probably still have a few K left over.
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Actually, it's costing him a lot in opportunity cost. He has to have a fair amount of money tied up in that guitar, and it's been earning him nothing for the last 9 years. He could have bought and resold several others with the same money over the same time, so he's actually lost a lot of money. Even the cost of insuring it has eaten into his profit if / when he eventually sells it. $100 every year is almost another $1k bite out of profit. Originally Posted by wintermoon
If he gets his asking price or even close to it, he may make out very well in the long run. But even if he "only" put $20k into it, he could have used the same money over 9 years to buy and resell at least 2 or 3 high end guitars with a stronger market each year and averaged $3k to $4k profit on each one. The math doesn't lie - he would almost certainly have made out much better financially using that money more wisely.
As the old saying goes in the used car business, there's an ass for every seat. But whether it's the buyer or the seller can be hard to determine.
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Yeah, I've known the seller for many years, longtime dealer that doesn't need the $ so it's no skin off his nose how long it sits, just like Gary, another dealer I've known for many years. Same deal, doesn't need the $. Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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So, like I said, it's costing him a fair amount of money. Whether or not he cares is a different story. But I think we're best off saving lines like "it won't cost anything" for our spouses Originally Posted by wintermoon
"Fool me once..." also applies to fooling yourself. Sadly, there's no one else to blame for fooling yourself even once, let alone twice.
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I hope the seller is playing it in the meantime. Originally Posted by wintermoon
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There's several ways to look at it/rationalize it, but ok. Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
So, like I said, it's costing him a fair amount of money. Whether or not he cares is a different story. But I think we're best off saving lines like "it won't cost anything" for our spouses
"Fool me once..." also applies to fooling yourself. Sadly, there's no one else to blame for fooling yourself even once, let alone twice.
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That's the response I always hope to get from my wife! Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Hmm... other options currently on Reverb right now:
1952 Super 400 CES (P90s, but one of the first S400CES' ever made): $35,000
1959 Super 400 CES custom made for Merle Travis (replaced pickups): $23,000
1960 Super 400 CES (all original): $37,500
To me, that's the most egregious part. Not that it's an expensive guitar (it is rare and valuable, absolutely) but that it's priced so much higher than similar guitars it's ridiculous. What does he think his has that all the other ones don't? I realize I'm in danger of stating the obvious here.
Or, for the more practical gentleman:
several 90s Super 400 CES for $10,000
Heritage Super Eagle CES (with Bigsby) for $6,000
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So the pair of PAFs is $77000. Originally Posted by andrew
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