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A quick search on the "coincoin" shows several GB10s including one within a 100km radius (in the 88) that you can go try out:
Originally Posted by Monica.N
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10-21-2024 07:38 AM
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Hello,
a quick update on my research !
I'm still looking for my guitar, i have been listening to some Emily Remler's record again as she is one of my favorite player.
I like this sound :
or this one :
I was looking at a thinline archtop, the Soho from D'Angelico but the mini humbucker may not give this sound.
So still looking for something with a 2000€ budget, hollow or semi ? does it make a huge difference ?
Thanks !
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Too bad you're not near enough to buy that red Eastman AR503ce that already has the Gibson pickup upgrade. I have to sell it now because I got the cheaper laminate AR403ce which is a bit lighter and more comfortable to play standing up (as a singer this was my priority so I'll have to do without the carved top, ebony fretboard and double action truss rod).
Those Remler tracks sound like the typical 335 with the tone knob turned down. I prefer thinline or 2 3/4" depth more with hollowbodies like the Epihone or Eastman models we've talked about because 335 style guitars are always surprisingly heavy to me for how thin they are.
I also don't love the idea of a mini humbucker for your first jazz box because it limits your upgrade options. I've already put a 57 Classic in the laminate Eastman and as expected it was a night and day difference from the Chinese Kent Armstrong it came with.
If you get some sort of single or double set humbucker guitar where you like the neck shape and body size then you're all set because you can always put the same Gibson neck pickup in it that Emily used.
pics of the Eastmans just to add some more content to your quest thread...
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When I play my main guitar with a pick the sound can be harsh.
If I play with my thumb and my other fingers are curled, it sounds a little better.
But, if I play with my thumb with my other fingers fully extended, which is how Wes played, the sound is much better. I think the difference is in the angle of the thumb when it hits the strings.
This is just one example of how the player creates the sound.
And, to muck things up further, my experience is that an in-store try-out is a very unreliable indicator of how I'm going to feel about the guitar after a few gigs.
In the OP's case, I agree that Emily Remler's tone is terrific in the video, so you might as well start with the same gear, if you can. But, don't be surprised if it doesn't sound the same. Also, don't be surprised that you end up wanting the guitar to do things that Emily didn't need the guitar to do. And don't forget to buy with a return privilege.
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That version of Softly... of Emily Remler is just breathtaking! Thanks for reminding about it! Originally Posted by Monica.N
Hello,
a quick update on my research !
I'm still looking for my guitar, i have been listening to some Emily Remler's record again as she is one of my favorite player.
I like this sound :
or this one :
I was looking at a thinline archtop, the Soho from D'Angelico but the mini humbucker may not give this sound.
So still looking for something with a 2000€ budget, hollow or semi ? does it make a huge difference ?
Thanks !
You are right, mini humbucker would not get You that sound.
I would start the search from used Gibson ES-335. If there is no cheap ones available, then the best copy: Epiphone Elitist, Yamaha or Tokai.
They are similar enough: laminate thinlines with full size humbucker, same scale and woods (make sure to have a mahogany neck!). And I would search a cherry red one!
Of course they are different than Emily's ES-guitar too: Emily's guitar is hollow, no block inside, and it has a trapeze, not stop tail. But to be realistic, I am not sure that anyone can hear the difference.
Then You can decide do You get the sound You want to hear, and move on in the needed direction if the first one does not satisfy You.
Good luck!
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Beautiful sounds coming from Emily's guitar in the videos you posted!
I can get a very similar sound (to that in "Softly") with my 2023 Epiphone Casino (around 800 Euros), coupled with my DV Mark Little Jazz amp. The Epi Casino looks like a 335 but is fully hollow, has P90 pickups and trapeze tail piece. Lighter and louder (when played acoustic) than a 335.
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Trapeze and stop tailpiece do not function the same.
The trapeze has a longer length of string between the bridge and tailpiece.
That non-vibrating portion does, in fact, stretch when you deflect the string. The string is deflected every time to push it down to play a note, and more if you bend a note.
I won't go into all the detail, but the action will feel a little softer with a trapeze.
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Picks alone can produce very different tonal qualities, depending on their thickness and the material from which they're made. Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
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The more interesting question is how this affects intonation. More string after the saddle means bends are more difficult to achieve, and notes less easy to pull/push sharp involunarily too? Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
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Thanks !
Gibson ES335 are out of my budget, but i can find Heritage h-535 just a little over 2000.
Also, in my first post i listed the Eastman T49d/v, a ES175 clone, a little under 2000 with Seymour Duncan humbuckers.
I guess i'll be happy with each of these guitars so i don't need to think too much !
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New certainly but you may be able to find a "player's instrument" that is in your budget and that you'll probably be able to sell again without much loss should you want to. Originally Posted by Monica.N
Also I'm quite certain I saw a number of ES335 clones on at least one of the websites of stores in Basel that I mentioned to you earlier.
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I have not played these cheaper series 335s, but I guess they can’t be all that bad. Originally Posted by Monica.N
Gibson es 335 in Baden-Wurttemberg - Mainhardt | kleinanzeigen.de
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As a classical guitarist that also plays an archtop, I mistakenly started with semis (ES335 and Ibanez As103) because these sustain too much to give the kind of voice separation I am accustomed to with a good classical guitar. They are not the best choice for dense contrapuntal music played with finger tips.
I don’t own any Eastmans (yet) but I live near a dealer and have played several. Their true jazz boxes generally have a wider nut width and have a more lively acoustic feel. Other good choices would be some used Peerless models like the Monarch and Cremona although these have the minimum nut width that I can handle with my fingers (1.7 inch). For low cost, I found a used custom Ibanez AF105sm that is pretty darn good although not quite at the level of my Peerless arch tops. I posted a recording playing this guitar a few months ago.
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Hey! Here is a reasonably priced Aria Pro from mid-80s which at least looks like the ES335 of Emily Remler:
Aria Pro II ES 800 WR made in Japan converted Gibson ES 335 Specs in Bayern - Viechtach | kleinanzeigen.de
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Hello everyone,
thanks again for all your answers !
I wanted to let you know that i bought an Eastman T49 ! I'm happy so far with the playability and the Seymour Duncan's humbucker !
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Congrats, but you know what they say - pics or it didn't happen!
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I was just gonna say that. Originally Posted by RJVB
Congrats, but you know what they say - pics or it didn't happen!
Nice get on that Eastman. I saw this locally today and thought of this quest thread:
2021 Eastman T486-SB - musical instruments - by owner - sale - craigslist
So is it time to start an amp thread now? I have thoughts!Last edited by Boze; 11-23-2024 at 04:12 PM.
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Looking for a Jazzbox
Excellent. Just don't buy one off the internet.
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Right now i don't really need an amp ahah
I play through my audio interface, i just need practice !
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To get to know the instrument your usual repertoire will work just fine Originally Posted by Monica.N
(I find that the Brouwer étude I studied recently actually "works" better on my acoustic archtop than on a classical...)
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Good thinking! Still, I think you will, indeed, enjoy the amplified sound once you decide to get one. Originally Posted by Monica.N
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