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    So I am a Jazz Newbie, but trying to stretch out a little. Mostly been a blues player in the past with a little country bluegrass thrown in. I have numerous electric and acoustic guitars, but I have really wanted a Jazz box.

    Opportunity knocked and now I have a Heritage Eagle Classic on the way. My question is for all who play the Heritage or similar guitar, what strings are you using?

    My go to on electric now is D’Addario pure nickel 49-11 and I play 56-13 on my acoustics except for my 000 (53-12). Any suggestions for the Heritage?
    Last edited by Slaminsam; 07-08-2024 at 11:22 PM.

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    Did you buy the Eagle that was on Reverb for 2K?You might want to try Thomastilk Swings on it.

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    No I did not get the one on reverb. Got one from Dave’s Guitar Shop.

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    Dave's is a great and reliable place to buy guitars.When you get it,let us know how you like it.You really can't go wrong with an Eagle as your first jazz guitar.Enjoy!

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    Most of my guitars are from Dave’s. I have been dealing with them since the 90’s. I still have one of his fliers that he used to mail out before the internet. Always fair and reliable to deal with. I will post pics when it arrives!

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    You can put most any strings on it you want. The first question might be is whether you are going to play exclusively acoustic. If so, you will likely want round wounds.

    The reason there are so many different string sets to consider is because there are so many different preferences.

    A good place to start if using a pickup is Half Rounds or Brite Flats. I'd go with 12s or 11s.

    You'll get a lot of other suggestions. Ignore them! (Kidding) In a year you'll still be thinking about other string sets.

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    I use SIT S1150 sets on most of my guitars, although I have some John Pearse Jazz 11-50s on one guitar that I like a lot. Peter Bernstein uses the heavy gauge version of that set and he has a fabulous tone. In my experience, both of these string sets give a pretty good meaty tone without much twang.

    Since you do a lot of acoustic playing with fairly stout strings, it's possible you have a rather heavy picking hand. In which case I would recommend tending towards a heavier gauge string. On the other hand, if you play with a light electric guitar type touch then a lighter gauge string might be fine. I have a pretty light touch myself and prefer lighter strings; I practice acoustically most of the time, but I don't perform acoustically.

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    Nice score! I’d use Thomastik Swings, or Bebop Rounds, and nothing less than .13’s

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    Well folks the Eagle has landed! Still on the honeymoon phase, but what a guitar. I need to work on my playing but so far all that I can say is that it’s a fantastic guitar, playing it is like dream))

    Heritage Eagle Classic, Actually On the way so I don’t have it yet-img_4631-jpgHeritage Eagle Classic, Actually On the way so I don’t have it yet-img_4632-jpg

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    Very nice! Did you decide what strings you are going to try?

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    I have not decided on strings yet, but that will be a fun journey! Having never played Flat wound strings that may be where I start. Probably start with a set of TI in 12’s which is a little heavier that I play on electric, and until I get some jazz underneath my fingers I tend to play what’s familiar while trying to learn new chord voicings. Have been trying to learn Western Swing so I lean a little to that style.

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    That is awesome! I love the beautiful plain black board.

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    Looks like a newer version. Congratulations!

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    It's a 2023 according to the Serial Number. It was considered used, but it looks like one that never sold or if it was, it was never played, so I received a very significant discount off a new one. I was very lucky to be at the right place at the right time (I think so) to be able to acquire it.

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    Beautiful specimen…Congrats

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    Gorgeous! Congrats! +1 on TI Swing 12’s.

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    I had a customized Heritage Eagle Classic built for me in 2015 before the original founders sold the company. It’s an awesome guitar. I went through the same process of experimenting with different flat and round wound strings. For me TI Swing 13’s were the clear winner.


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    How does the neck feel? Is more on the beefy side or thin? I'm thinking of getting one of these. I've never been able to bond with my GB10 due to the thin petite neck profile.

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    Thanks for all the nice comments, I am really enjoying playing this guitar. I have ordered a set of TI 12's in both Jazz and Bebop to get a feel for TI's and the gauge. I am ready to see where this journey will go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdub
    How does the neck feel? Is more on the beefy side or thin? I'm thinking of getting one of these. I've never been able to bond with my GB10 due to the thin petite neck profile.
    The Neck on this one feels great. I would say it in on the beefy side. Probably closer to a '59 Spec. 1st Fret is .85 and at the 12th is 1.3 but the heel is starting to come into play at the 12th.

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    She is a knockout! May she inspire your playing for many years to come. Congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaminsam
    The Neck on this one feels great. I would say it in on the beefy side. Probably closer to a '59 Spec. 1st Fret is .85 and at the 12th is 1.3 but the heel is starting to come into play at the 12th.
    The proper way to measure archtop neck depth is:
    -at and just behind the 1st fret;
    -at and just behind the 9th fret.

    Some makers use a fairly small heel design that allows for useful measure at and just behind the 10th fret, but the neck often begins to deepen toward the heel by that point, so
    the 9th fret measurement is most useful. I typically measure both. Measuring at the 12th fret is typically useless across all makers.

    Heritage archtop guitars typically have huge and needlessly oversized heel carves, although I have not yet checked any of the post-2016 models to see if they have fixed this design flaw. IMO, they are excellent, fully carved archtops at a very accessible price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaminsam
    The Neck on this one feels great. I would say it in on the beefy side. Probably closer to a '59 Spec. 1st Fret is .85 and at the 12th is 1.3 but the heel is starting to come into play at the 12th.
    Awesome! Thanks for the reply. I think I'm sold now.

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    That guitar is gorgeous it has the makings of one that can be played at all levels. I with MG and I would try the half rounds first. This is a guitar that will be obviously an electric guitar but has the acoustic presence to keep in the mix. Then give the full flatwounds a try they could through an amp be the winner. To me if you can develop the style, you have essentially a Wes L5 without the expense and yet the target sound. I am sticking by my guns that Heritage Guitars are the underrated ones of the time and will in the long run prove themselves worthy of the best. I have detractors but maybe MG will agree.

    Play this guitar and give us a sound report great move!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deacon Mark
    ...I am sticking by my guns that Heritage Guitars are the underrated ones of the time and will in the long run prove themselves worthy of the best....
    Priced new at $5,300. Similarly, a 17" Campellone Standard is priced new at $5,600, and can be ordered with set-in pickups. Both are very accessibly priced - all the sound and playability of a classic 17" fully carved electric archtop, without the bling (which adds zero to their sound or playability).
    Last edited by Hammertone; 07-13-2024 at 09:01 PM.