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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
Their first band The Broken Combs with Eddie on piano and Alex on sax in about 1964
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10-10-2020 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by Zephyr690
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Originally Posted by jaco
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Originally Posted by starjasmine
(Though TBH when great rock players jam together, it’s rarely revelatory, cause they each have their own thing, and without the structure of a complex well-thought-out song it usually devolves into wankery. Clapton’s first acoustic jams with Duane might be an exception, mainly cause they were playing the blues and Clapton can sing. Clapton’s jams with George Harrison are boring to me. Maybe there are some other impromptu rock jams that I don’t know about but should listen to.)
It’s hard to know where Frank was coming from, given his history of extreme sardonic humor. Dr. Sardonicus...
But one guesses that he secretly admires at least some of the people he skewers/makes fun of...Bob Dylan...Eddie...David Bowie..Peter Frampton...
I doubt he liked Jerry Falwell or Jesse Jackson much though.
Anyway, I digress. In retrospect it’s a little strange that EVH was so influential for about a decade, then became *almost* invisible. Maybe that’s an appropriate reaction to great success and fame. Lot’s of other people have done it. Some like Elvis go the other route...is it better to burn out or to fade away? Still trying to figure that one out.
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BTW, speaking of FZ and Eddie, I am now recalling that Zappa did a bit of tapping...the solo in Inca Roads comes to mind...I think there were also some songs on Shut Up and Play Your Guitar that featured tapping.
Frank did admit that Eddie took the technique to a different level. That’s why Frank hired Vai, cause he wanted someone who could “play the stuff that I can’t play.”
Frank and Eddie were a lot alike it seems to me. Frank was an inveterate tinkerer with his guitars. Read about his Gibson LP sometime. “A Stratocaster with a whammy bar”...I mean Joe’s Garage is more the story of EVH than Frank in terms of record contracts and commercial success...
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
Also, for me VH is the first American real ROCK band. Everything else before wasn't real rock, only British bands were rocking at that time. So basically their influence never stopped since then. That's how I look at it anyway.
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Originally Posted by Dave70
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
I think their last big hit was Right Now, though, in ‘91. More time in the spotlight than the Beatles, but less than The Rolling Stones...
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
One can be in the spotlight without having a steady stream of hit singles.
And Eddie had a spotlight of his own as a guitar player and designer of gear (guitars, amp heads, combos, and cabinets).
It will be interesting to see how much of his music comes out posthumously. He had his own studio and recorded a lot. No telling what all there is.
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
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Ted Templeman said that lots of VH were one takes. Hard to doubt that considering:
Interesting comparison with Townsend and “Who Are You.” His guitar isn’t the song the same way that EVH’s was in these examples IMHO.
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There's before Eddie, and after Eddie, in rock guitar. I'm not a big fan of his, but his impact was huge, whether you liked him or not.
What I dug was his melodicism, when he wasn't going warp-speed, and the vocal harmonies the band could put together.
My favorite song from him doesn't have a guitar solo at all, unless you count the sorta cheesy intro:
He had a bluesy sort of shred that was friendly to the ear, and could write a good tune too.
The comments above about his groove are spot-on, too. He had a great sense of pocket and knew how to lay into it.
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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BTW, not to derail the thread, but listened to Zappa’s 1981 Halloween concert last night—just available on Apple, not sure if it has been out on disk before, but excellent production, excellent performance...probably THE best example of early 80’s live Zappa I have ever heard. I saw them live about this time...probably with Steve Vai, though TBH I don’t remember if he was with them or not. Also some absolutely smoking Zappa solos.
Anyway...
There was a great deal of tapping going on by Steve Vai, especially on Stevie’s Spanking, also their ersatz version of Whipping Post, which is much better than the one on their official release. I think I heard a few quotes from EVH there, if I wasn’t mishearing.Last edited by Doctor Jeff; 10-12-2020 at 02:39 PM.
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Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus
"Dance the Night Away" is one of my favorite Van Halen songs. Great rhythm part from Eddie.
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Any Aztec Camera/Roddy Frame fans out there? I used to have the EP with this B-side back in the day. Came out 6 months after the VH original. I thought that it was pretty cool that they covered it. A bit different, eh?
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Originally Posted by lammie200
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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Originally Posted by lammie200
Last edited by ksaric; 10-13-2020 at 04:09 AM.
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Originally Posted by fep
Did you ever see that, visited the parties, if so how was it? Was it even true?
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Originally Posted by greveost
1988 Benedetto Fratello Honey Blonde
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