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Originally Posted by fasstrack
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07-15-2017 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by destinytot
Thanks for that...(;
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Originally Posted by fasstrack
I wrote something on another thread about one of the greats that I do not wish to derail, and anyway belongs here, best I can tell:
It's dicey at best to enter into a discussion about matters ethnic and racial, but enter I must, and get a few things off my chest, then hear everyone's views.
Jazz, now belonging to the world, was the great contribution to American culture and art of African-Americans. Were whites, Latins and others in on it, even from 'jump street'? Absolutement, but it was conceived, developed and matured in black communities this nation over.
What troubles me is not the embracing and contributing to the form by ethnic groups the world over. Who wouldn't want to get in on something so beautiful and powerful---and healing?
What troubles me is that not only the craft of jazz guitar, but much of jazz has become perceived as largely a white undertaking.
Let me explain yet further:
On this forum and other jazz chat rooms, I rarely see discussions of currently contributing African-american guitarists such as Ed Cherry, Jerome Harris or Kevin McNeal. Russell Malone gets some play, but he's very out front (for the record, he is a friend I cherish, and a great player).
'S'up wit dis, guys?
On a related topic, the trad bands I hear here in NY have zero black faces, at least I've never seen one.
Is this because (I pray not) people tend to stay with their 'own kind'?
Do they hire friends (more likely, I think)?
Can we look this topic unflinchingly in the face and get some answers?
I'm all ears...
*What precisely were you trying to achieve? And how would you have known that you'd achieved it?Last edited by destinytot; 07-16-2017 at 06:59 AM.
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Originally Posted by destinytot
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Originally Posted by KirkP
I was a little amused at the mischievous self-signalling - 'weaseling in' the topic of race - in the speculative sentence marker (in bold) at the foot of the message below.
I've indulged in more than a little self-signalling of my own - openly. I've said my piece now.
So I'll back off and hit 'ignore'.
I don't apologise - but I do thank you for stepping in.
Originally Posted by fasstrackLast edited by destinytot; 07-16-2017 at 02:42 PM. Reason: Dramatic effect and 'weasel'
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Originally Posted by destinytot
The overwhelming response speaks louder than anything I can say. And now, like the former moderator, I'm closing the topic. You all can do what you want, but, please, I really don't want to talk about this any more.
Sorry I brought it up. My bad. Now back to Stevie, PLEASE...
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Benson using nice Vibrato and Playing so expressively ... does this Stevie Tune sound like a Standard to you Guys ? I don't know Standards but I know Writing - so guessing it does to most of you.
Has some badass Sax Player covered' All is Fair in Love 'yet ?
That could be a real knockout ...Last edited by Robertkoa; 07-19-2017 at 10:07 AM.
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Originally Posted by Robertkoa
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Originally Posted by fasstrack
And how many Guitarists could throw in some effortless fast lines in there like George without distracting from the mood of the Tune..
That's like two levels UP from having the speed itself... ( how do I know ? ...ha)
Alto Sax Players especially do this fantastically well...and sometimes on Tenor...
But Guitarists ?
George's ability to do 'Rhythmic Ghost Notes' on Guitar is almost unparalleled.
Benson's Rhythm Sense in some ways can't be compared to other Guitarists - more like a great drummer or percussionist sometimes.
And George is always playing R&B even when he plays JazzLast edited by Robertkoa; 03-15-2018 at 10:51 PM.
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Beautiful gift:
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Sir Duke
Stevie Wonder
Music is a world within itself
With a language we all understand
With an equal opportunity
For all to sing, dance and clap their hands
But just because a record has a groove
Don't make it in the groove
But you can tell right away at letter A
When the people start to move
They can feel it all over
They can feel it all over people
They can feel it all over
They can feel it all over people
Music knows it is and always will
Be one of the things that life just won't quit
But here are some of music's pioneers
That time will not allow us to forget
For there's Basie, Miller, Sachmo
And the king of all Sir Duke
And with a voice like Ella's ringing out
There's no way the band can lose
You can feel it all over
You can feel it all over people
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You can feel it all over people
You can feel it all over
You can feel it all over people
You can feel it all over
You can feel it all over people
You can feel it all over
You can feel it all over people
You can feel it all over
You can feel it all over people
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You can feel it all over people
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I can feel it all over-all over now people
Can't you feel it all over
Come on let's feel it all over people
You can feel it all over
Everybody-all over people
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Ah, Stevie Wonder ...
One of my first musical impacts ! And my love for this Genius still lasts ...
It's quite difficult to find only a few tunes that I love ... Of course I love to play Isn't She Lovely ?, You are the Sunshine of my Life (which has mistakenly been considered as a soppy and weak song -just watch this fantastic and soulful performance from another genius : ) and ... Superstition !!!
1993 MINT Gibson L-5 Wes Montgomery James...
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