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It's great that there are musicians like Chad LB.
If they are appreciated, people will not forget that there is such music as jazz.
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03-24-2021 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by grahambop
The Stranger struggled in his grasp,
”Hold off! unhand me, grey-beard loon!”
Cried Marinero: “Today’s jazz Crew
Are Guilty - of murdering the Tune!”
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Originally Posted by christianm77
John
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I don't know. The level of musicianship is extremely high in pop, jazz, classical music. Higher than ever imho. But i can't say that young people don't play slow music or not being good at it.
By the way: comparing Chad with Coltrane is not a good idea.
Let Brecker have a go at it.
Brecker also got criticised for being to technical.
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Originally Posted by John A.
Hi, J,O.K. As of today, you have been designated in a secret vote by the powerful yet, clandestine "Universal Society of Language Perversion" as the sole interpreter of my words. Whatever machinations you wish to launch, hardcore editing of morphology and syntax, intimations/declarations of the most obtuse perversions of the English language and outright, scandalized rewrites of my thoughts and ideas and, thereby, will be duly and fully certified as Truth-Finder under the by-laws of their esteemed organization. This appointment, however, carries with it the venerable responsibility to distort and rewrite as much of my ideas as possible and to present them in a form that is wholly and without question ,absurd, and to convince as many on this Forum, as possible, the sanctity of your interpretations. However, let me make some simple statements ,under the implicit laws of honest communication, that you and your Society cannot distort. (p.s. These are MY opinions)1. A musician is a person who plays music. There are two types: ear musician-- without formal training; formally trained
musician. Rock, C@W, etc. ,as examples, usually represent the former; orchestral, Jazz big band, the latter.
2. Artist: a person who has surpassed musicianship as a craft and transcended into Art. They have the "complete package"
of mechanistic skills/knowledge of the idiom and have mastered every aspect of the art form. Their goal is communication
of the human condition through their Art. This, however, is a much-abused term by the Plebians who confuse talent with
Art. Some artists are: Wes Montgomery, Chet Baker, Dexter, Coltrane, Miles, Monk, Michel Petrucciani, Mingus,
Elvin Jones, Buddy Rich to name a few. Unless a person is a savant(there is more than one definition for this term J,
for which you are ,obviously, unaware), it takes a lifetime of experience to ascend to this level. Even early savants like
Chet Baker or Chick Corea honed their Art to an exceptionally high level far transcending their earlier accomplishments.
This term, however, is very abused and is used by many to describe a talented musician however, not an artist.
Examples of artists in other genres include: Thomas Mann, Paul Gauguin, Joseph Conrad, T.S. Eliot, Rembrandt,
Shinkichi Takahashi, Robert Frost, Da Vinci, Chaucer . . .
3. Chad is not an artist but a very gifted musician with tremendous potential. This is why I used him as an example as
a great young musician, perhaps savant, however, IMO, he has not honed all of his skills ,as I hear, when he plays ballads
which ,in my opinion, lack warmth and personality. But, nonetheless he has great potential for growth in the future.
If there are those who disagree with these definitions, it's your opinion--not mine but they come from a lifetime of study,
performing and serious listening of quality music in all genres. Sadly, the word "artist" is a much abused term and in
recent generations can encompass anyone from a three-chord guitarist in bizarre dress and makeup to a blue-jeaned
Folk guitarist that ,in addition to C/F/G, can also play Em. . . Ave Verum Corpus . . .
Play live . . . Marinero
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I regret to point out:
Chad LB is a great young Artist.
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Originally Posted by Marinero
Let me rephrase: it's coming across as such.
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Originally Posted by kris
An artist is not defined by age ie young artist/old artist. He/she is just an artist. Simple. So, by your definition Chad is an artist. O.K.
Play live . . . Marinero
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We can also add that he is a living artist.
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No shortage of adjectives.
white? Beardy?
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
Not at all. It's just an opinion based on my view of an "artist." I think Chad is a very gifted, talented musician with great promise for the future. However, I don't consider him an artist. And, I don't believe that those who espouse contrary opinions about anything in life that opposes "group think" should be construed as arrogant. Contrawise . . . simply a different opinion or view. Thanks.
Play live . . . Marinero
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Originally Posted by Marinero
John
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Originally Posted by John A.
For your honest opinion! What a boring world it would be if everyone thought the same.
Play live . . . Marinero
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Interesting thoughts here from everyone. The most important thing though is “individuality”. Everything else becomes wallpaper.
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Chad evokes great emotions and applause from the audience. He has the power to play and controls his lines at the same time. There are no random notes in his playing.Chad-do your thing, I'm your fan.
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Originally Posted by kris
Play live . . . Marinero
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This comment is nice, but why is this applause not natural ...?
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Originally Posted by John A.
Now excuse me while I go full beast mode on a halloumi wrap. Man that shit is killing.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
John
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Originally Posted by Marinero
I've been listening to Mike Moreno's house guest series recently which is awesome btw. But...
The solos are shredding but I've found myself desiring more contrast. I would like to here some simple melodic ideas pursued by Mike. Maybe, I don't have the capacity to fully appreciate what he is doing.
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Man this didn't quite go where I thought it would, I haven't performed with Chad... wish I could, have performed with Breckers, Mintzer, Berg and many other incredible Sax monsters. His has his playing together, I'm sure he can play whatever he wants or is paid to play. I would think anyone on this forum would love to have his skills... I sure would.
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Originally Posted by Reg
John
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Originally Posted by Reg
Thank you very much for your professional comment.
Best
kris
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Originally Posted by Marinero
I know guitarists love having their norms, and so a lot of other instrumentalists do.
I am agreed with little things, imperfections are not welcome nowadays, Chad is from this world, conservatory, and he is great great great, he sounds good !!! Don't forget that those instruments are consistent, there are no pad problems, they know how things work, in the time of Coltrane, everything had to be invented and the instruments were not perfect, the mouthpieces were what they were, everything would be unplayable today.
If someone posted an unknown recording of a great musician (when I say great, I mean a legend), some would say : "There is a problem of timing, sound, it doesn't swing, he is rushing... He needs to work his instrument."
But if the name is revealed, everyone will say it's great.
That's it !
Chad is great ! He plays for real !
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This thread is a farce .. There isn't a single player mentioned that can play with emotion or feeling
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