View Poll Results: Thumb over neck?
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Originally Posted by Skip Ellis
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06-04-2018 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by neatomic
Good God Almighty!
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To be fair, Richie Havens played in an Open tuning and used his thumb to barre the strings and then use his fingers to change the chord type etc.
He's a special case.
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Almost never...except for 8 X 8 9 10 9 !
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Thumb over is big and clever
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My first teacher was of the "thumb stays planted on the back of the neck" school, and I guess I got indoctrinated that way. The only time I hang my thumb over the top is for a big bend.
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I use the thumb to fret notes on the 6th string when it seems called for. The rest of the time I try to keep it behind the neck after decades of lazily using the thumb as a hanger for the whole arm. Eschewing this has been a long struggle; suffice it to say "proper" thumb-behind-the-neck technique is a whole different ball of wax, ergonomically speaking. I'm still working on it, and as Cassals said, "I think I'm making progress."
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I'm going with Bela Bartok & Lee Konitz
Thumb Under, a song by Lee Konitz Quintet on Spotify
Saw Tal Farlow play once, he apologised to the obvious guitarists sitting in the front row for his unorthodox technique...I could never get my thumb to do that anyway.
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if you thought richie havens was idiosyncratic (he was!)
what about the legendary thumbs carllile!
haha
cheers
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Rory Hoffman plays with the guitar flat on his lap like that, too, and that dude can burn.
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My thumb is mostly centered on the back of the neck for both chording and soloing -- except when I'm bending, it'll ride up onto the shoulder of the neck for better leverage. I don't use it for thumbing a bass note, it just ain't that big to allow for it fretting a note and extended voicings.
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I have a few tunes where I do it, however I avoid it when working out new arrangements. I have come to the conclusion at least for me, this is not a good thing to be doing it comes to thumb ergonomics.
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Reminded me of this. Creepy.
(at 12:06)
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Actually I was working through another John Mayer acoustic song with a student - can't remember the name - and that had some very difficult thumb fretting in it.
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This is it.
I dig this channel. I like the way he demonstrates his process. It's very important for students to see that.
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That's not THE bit though it's later on, just after that first section... Also I don't think Music is Win guy 100% nails it?
I'm not a Mayer fan, but this song is nice.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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I play both.
At the beginning I was strctly against thumb over the neck as I came from classical and though it was not efficient and unhealthy.
But when I began to play a lot electric and steel string I began to use it too.
To me the most important thing is efficiency.
I do not see any problem in combining techniques.
I do not have to choose one.
Some say if you play thumb over your pinky goes out of use... weel first many thumb over player do not use pinky at all...
And second - actually if you know good left hand position... really good I mean (not every classical player has it too).
So if you have it - you ca do whatever you want.. use your thuimb, stretch, rotate your wrist - you will always be able to come back to solid ground.
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Originally Posted by gtrplrfla
I didn't do it for a long time, but then I picked it up from a book on Merle Travis' style. It adapted well to certain jazz chords.
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Originally Posted by Jonah
Couple examples off the top of my head:
3x4435.. Don't even know how I could play this without my thumb. Or another I like, 5x5435.
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Of course. Thumb over the neck, fretting the 6 the string, the right way to play Hendrix songs.
Last edited by Johnny_L; 06-24-2018 at 12:03 AM.
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Originally Posted by p1p
Usually my pinky is high above the fretboard - somehweher over 4th string
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The John Mayer video is amusing to me, because although I don't personally use a thumb over neck technique very often (I do a lot of my playing on a nylon strings, and my hands aren't big enough to do it effectively), when I do, I find fretting with the thumb on the same fret as the ring finger easier than fretting with the thumb on the same fret as the index finger.
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7-string guitar. thumb behind neck, always. besides, the harmonics generated by the bass strings allow one to use fewer notes per chord.
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I seriously believe that virtually all issues, problems, deficiencies, inabilities, and general "can't playness" stem from ignoring the last few hundred years of development and cultivation of proper form.
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