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Ok so I'm more or less satisfied with the tone, but something in me wants the super 58s badly. So I'm thinking korea or japan? Afaik japanese are on af 200 and high end PM series, while Koreans are on AF(S) 120? Is that correct? How big is the difference? Samples on the tube are conflicting, cause some players make the af 200 sound like crap, and 120 godly and then it's the opposite picture. I'm sure the 70$ koreans will be a noticeable upgrade, but maybe I should just get a single neck silent 58 instead of paying for 2 koreans? Other 2 options I considered are Seths (really loved the sound on all guitars I heard) and 57s (this one is not so stable, some sounded good , some not so, plus I don't feel like it's the sound that I need), but since both PM and GB used the supers, I'm a bit biased here. However I'm confused cause seems like the new japanese supers are alnico V now?! It's such a mess with these supers..
and then there's these guys Ibanez Super 58 Guitar Pickup Set Gold 4-Conductor | eBay which are indonesian and supposed to be alnico III.. go figureLast edited by ASonic; 01-17-2022 at 09:39 PM.
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01-17-2022 09:14 PM
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I would try first ....
just changing the magnets in your
ACH pickups to alnico ones
might transform the pickups
quite cheap and worth a try ?
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Originally Posted by pingu
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You don't change the magnets through the f holes. You remove the pickups.
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Originally Posted by sgosnell
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This should be pretty authoritative on magnet replacement
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Ive now managed to free the vol pot with the wires that leads to neck pickup. After securing them with strong sewing thread I dropped the selector and tone pot into the body. The cables were straining and it had to be done to allow the vol pot out of the sound hole and accessable for soldering. After some thinking and humming it did´nt take long to do all of that.
As far as i can tell the white wire on right side of the vol pot, as seen in the pic, is the hotwire from the neck pickup. A cap is very cheap but a colleague happend to have a 0,01 microfarad cap (and some others) laying around, that i will solder between the pickup and the vol pot as a low pass filter. Doesnt cost anything to try. I´ll get back with the results.
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Hi,
I own an Ibanez AG95.
I changed original pickups for SD Seth Lover, changed original TOM for a wooden bridge (great improvement), swapped strings for TI Jazz Swing and play the guitar through a Fender 85.
George Benson would be jealous of my sound!
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Originally Posted by balthazar
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Originally Posted by ASonic;[URL="tel:1174227"
with stock super 58 pickups ....
they’re fine ,
I sometimes want a slightly
shinier top end on the neck pu depending
on the room /amp / mood etc
but the I just add in a little of the bridge pu
and all is good ....
(It would be interesting to try some
Japanese S58 sometime to see if
they’re a much better sound ....)
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Originally Posted by pingu
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Originally Posted by ASonic
Earlier models like mine were mounted with ACH pickups.
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Originally Posted by balthazar
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I´ve now tried this mod Seymour Duncan Mod Squad: Muddy sounding neck pickup? - Guitar Pickups, Bass Pickups, Pedals
This adds a capicitator on the pickup hotwire. The lower microfarad - the more bass tones are filtered out.
I tried with a 0,01 microfarad cap and also added a switch for bypass so i could toggle before/after mod. To my surprise it worked just as advertised. It cuts away a little bit of bass (and therefore also ca 10 % of the volume). The mids are slightly lifted and the treble I find more or less intact. When I listened to a recorded sound test i found to my surprise that the original sound didnt sound as bad as i remembered, even when using the low e-string in the chords, i tried to play with a lighter touch though. The mod did give me a clearer sound, but Im not sure if this is an alternative to a pickup swap.
I will make the mod more permanent and buy a mini switch that i can hide away under the pick guard for bypass, then evaluate for a while.
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Good stuff.
By the way, anyone here knows the Drums Etc. | The Drummer's & Guitarist's Pro Shop website? Can they be trusted? The guy told me both korean and japanese supers are in stock at Ibanez, and available for ordering. What I find interesting, is that the chinese/indonesian ones from ebay that I posted, are more expensive on this site (Ibanez Super 58 Guitar Pickup - Neck 3PUS58N4GDG | Drums Etc.) than the koreans. No idea why, are the pickups on 153 better than the ones on 120 for instance? Anyone has experience with both? Is it even worth going for MIK these days, or are others just as good now? The alternative is buying a japanese neck pickup only, since I'm reluctant to spend 300-400$ when I got the guitar for 325$.Last edited by ASonic; 01-25-2022 at 08:24 PM.
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Hey there! Wanted to update this thread. I just received (finally!) the MIK Super 58's, and gave them to my luthier for installation.
It's funny that turned out they are completely filled with wax, so basically the Silent 58's (Pat's guitars) Korean analog. These are extremely hard to find, I managed to order them through the site above, and they said Ibanez have like 2 sets in storage for each of these older pickups.
They do look like they're going to go extinct soon, the bridge one doesn't even have the sticker on it
Will get back with results in a couple of days.
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Do you tend to keep the volume pot on your guitar set to maximum? The volume pot has a great effect on frequency response. In general the frequency response becomes flatter if you roll off that pot. Of course your amp’s volume then needs to be set higher. I’m much happier with the tone of all my guitars since I adopted that approach.
Someone made the excellent suggestion to try different picks. You might also experiment with where you pick. The tone changes a lot as you move away from the bridge. I’d suggest experimenting with ideas like that before giving up on a pickup.
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Originally Posted by balthazar
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Originally Posted by ASonic
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Originally Posted by ASonic
does anyone know the part number
for Japanese Neck S58 Humbucker ?
(I want to put one in my Korean AF120)
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Originally Posted by pingu
Ibanez Super 58 Guitar Pickup -Neck 3PU1J158C1 | Drums Etc. this is what you need pingu. The gold ones have g1 instead of c1. Be aware that it takes some time before they order it from ibanez and send to you. I ordered at the start of February and received them in mid March. Almost lost hope, but then they said they finally received them from the warehouse.
I'll try to post some sound demos for comparison, but I still haven't got any decent recording equipment, so..
P.S. for Ibanez parts you can use this Ibanez parts catalog , helped me a lot with determining what exactly I needed by watching videos of the guitars that have the parts I was looking for.Last edited by ASonic; 03-23-2022 at 05:11 PM.
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Originally Posted by PatrickB
It is a home-made ebony bridge.
Disappointed by the previous one I bought (same issue here) , I decided to make my own one.
There was a discussion with pics about it on the forum but seems vanished.
Last edited by balthazar; 03-26-2022 at 07:56 AM.
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I ended up ridiculously close to Jim Hall's sound on the Concierto album. Will try to record a demo soon.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy blue note
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Originally Posted by KirkP
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