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Do you want just a clean jazz amp, or something that can rock out too?
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10-25-2021 12:41 PM
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I wouldn't call it 'rockin' out' but an edge is nice.
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
https://www.fender.com/en-US/guitar-...279000000.html
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Originally Posted by ruger9
The Classic 20 seemed like a good deal, but they stopped making them quite awhile ago, and they didn't have reverb.
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Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
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Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
If a shop has both this vibro and the PJ i could compare.
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That Vibrochamp is almost the same price as that second hand Elfring at TFOA. I played both: the Elfring has much, much more headroom. AFAIC much better suited for jazz than the Fender.
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That's why i said that is is a bit too expensive. And why would i need headroom? I understand that you like Elfring, but unless they cut their prices in half i am not interested.
Why is the Session Bluesbaby 22 only available in Sessions online store? I'd really like to try one!
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Strangely enough, the new Aviator Cub has been in stock the entire time.
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
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I understand, but if the budget is €500,- it does not help suggesting an amp that is double that used.
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I'm curious as to why you are insistent on a 10" speaker? If your concern is that a 12" would be too bassy and an 8" not bassy enough, IME it's not that straightforward. There are boomy 10's and light sounding 12's. And while 8's generally are less bassy than either 10's or 12's that can be be a good thing, especially with an archtop. If you're open to 12's, I'd suggest a Fender Blues Jr.
FWIW, I have a Princeton Reverb with a Jensen C10Q instead of the stock C10R, and it's significantly louder with cleaner and tighter sounding lows than a stock PRRI. Turned up to the point where it really starts to sing, it's loud enough for drums and horns (and too loud for my apartment, though at apartment friendly volume it's still a great sound). Strictly for home playing (and if it truly has to be a 10) a stock PRRI might be better. You could probably find a used one within your budget. I also have a Fender Champion 20, which is seriously cheap (about $100), but is a great sounding amp. It has an 8" speaker, and I don't really find myself missing low end when I use it. I would say a Super Champ X2 (same models as my C20, bigger speaker, tube power section) does sound a bit "bigger" but it's not a dramatic difference. The C20 is way lighter (I carry it to jams, gigs etc., on the subway all the time).
Going in a different direction, I once tried a Bugera v5 (again, 8" speaker, but all tubes), and I thought it sounded great (very tweed Champ-like, plus reverb), and is well within your budget.
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I know of few amps with a 12" speaker that are small and light. I don't insist on a 10", i insist on small and light. The BJ is to big.
Don't know about 8" speakers. I owned a lacey with a 8" speaker a while and didn't like it. Small and boxy.
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I agree with John A on the Bugera V5 combo. It’s a wonderful little amp that’s built very well, sounds great, and lists for about $300 USD. Yes, it’s “only” an 8” speaker, but it makes excellent bass and is a great jazz amp for home use. I usually use an 8” (Little Jazz or Elf head and 8” RevSound cab) on my outside gigs and a DV Jazz 12 at the club in which I play weekly. All are great in our apartment as well. I also have a SF Vibrolux, a tweed Blues Deluxe, and a CS Princeton Reverb at the club - but I stopped using even amps like this at home because the little ones are so good and so much easier to move around.
I do have a Quilter Superblock US on order to replace my other little tube head, a Vox NightTrain 15 that sounds great but weighs 17 pounds and is posted for sale now. The leap from 17 pounds to 1 1/2 is the final step in a decline that began with a twin and a 65 pound EVM loaded Mesa Boogie, moving like clockwork as I aged through a Vibrolux, a Boogie Subway, a Walkabout, etc down to the Vox, a Crate PowerBlock and the Elf.
Of course, your other option is a Toob or other light speaker cab with the head of your choice. There are several fine heads (class D, tube, and old style SS) that sound great and cost very little. Even the more powerful pedal amps are quite fine. If you can find or order one where you are, the ElectroHarmonix Magnum 44 pedal amp is a steal and a great choice for home use with a small, efficient speaker cab.
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
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You might be right, but that is no reason to settle for something i don't like. Maybe I'll buy the Pro Junior.
The only amp so far that has a 12" speaker and isn't too big is the Koch SE6. The trouble is that is not really available near where i live.
Patience . . . .
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Have you considered the Boss Katana 50 1x12"? It's light (11.6 kg), verstile, small (470x398x238mm), and sounds great. I played through one at a local Guitar Center near me in the US and loved it - I'd be very happy with it in our apartment and could gig with it too. I know that Anderton's sells it, but I have no idea if they ship to the Netherlands or if there's a dealer more accessible to you. They're $250 USD brand new and one of the best little amps out there. It's another great consideration for you.
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Hey Never…l see a lot of polemic comments on the Katana. Some say it has a nice jazz tone and some say it’s impossible with that amp. What did you think?
jk
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Originally Posted by jazzkritter
If I were serious about it, though, I'd take one of my guitars over to try it out. It seems to have great potential, but you can't be sure until you play your own instrument through it.
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
I believe there is a Cube that has a 10" speaker? The Cube 30?
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
Last edited by nevershouldhavesoldit; 10-27-2021 at 09:39 AM.
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Cubes are great.
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I had one years ago. Why did i sell it again?
16" 1920s/30s L5
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