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12-28-2020 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Cavalier
I'm not a physicist, just a reader of commonly available information. OTOH, guitar sound is an acquired taste - actually many sounds to many tastes - to which theories apply - in theory. So I'm not lecturing or trying to say you're wrong. My own TOOB cabs defy just about every conviction, iron law and calculation formula. Yet there's over 250 of them out there, with pro musicians accounting for a very large share.Last edited by Gitterbug; 12-28-2020 at 08:04 PM.
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Originally Posted by Gitterbug
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
hammond spring reverb tanks were the best!..very musical natural sounding verb tanks...think early fenders...unfortunately they were taken over by accutronics, who never quite equaled the og hammonds...today even accutronics are in name only and made in asia
cheers
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I’d like to second the Eminence GA SC64. For a Blackfaced- voiced amp, these speakers bring out a warm, vintage tone. This was the best upgrade I made to my SuperSonic 22. The vintage channel on this amp is a Blackfaced Deluxe with a solid state rectifier.
I can only image that a pair would sound just marvelous in ‘65 Twin.
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First of all, i want to thank everyone here that replied to this thread, thanks for all the informations.
I decided to go to 1*12 cab instead of 2*12, because i don't wanna too much bass response that could be a bad match with an archtop. If anyone have advices about 1*12 vs 2*12, feel free to talk about it !
About speaker choice, i wanted to stay in a Fender like speaker but without icepick... After few youtube comparisons videos ( not a great tool to compare but only one i have right now ) i decided to go to WGS, plus they aren't too expensive.
I'll order both G12C ( Jensen-like ) and G12C/S ( smooth cone, less high ) to try both of them and resell or send back to the shop the one i like the less. Will keep you updated about this
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Originally Posted by Madansi
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To be honest I've never had a bass difference from running 2 12s or 1. I get the same tone.but more air moving. Same thing with a 4 12. Bass players will often run a 4 10 for less bass than 1 15 as a example.
This winter I have been trying out a vintage CTS full range 12 from a old Hammond Piper organ from 1970 in my Ampeg Gemini 1. It has a extended range both in bass and treble over a guitar 12 that I am having fun with, especially on acoustic;, so check out frequency curves as in the speaker itself the design can do more to change the sound than the size.
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
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replied to your DM. Jupiter 12 LA (50w) will not add speaker distortion in a 12w amp.
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Many thanks for the super quick reply! Actually it is 14W due to my technician and the JJ 6V6 power tubes, but I don't think it matters
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The Warehouse speakers are surprisingly good sounding and the price is very right. One of the best upgrades you can make to a fender champ is the Warehouse G8C . I have used the G12C in Deluxe reverbs and they perfectly matched . I do like the Jensen jet tornados neo’s for fenders as well.
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Originally Posted by Billy Z
But when I got the WGS G12C/S and played the first chords I knew I had came to home. Great balance, firm low end and everything.
But it was a Princeton, not a Twin!
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I like too WGS speakers (also the manufacturer of Jupiter). I now have an 8" Alnico in my SF Vibro Champ, and before that I had the G8C, which also sounded very good (in a different way, of course).
I also tried the WGS G12C/S speaker in my BF Princeton Amp (and in a Twin Reverb as well), and although it is rated 75W, it breaks up before the Princeton does. It's may be due to its smooth cone, I'm not sure. In contrast to the G12C remains completely clean but there was too much bass for me (even with the potentiometer completely turned down). I used and tried many different speakers (Chicago-made Jensen alnico, Jensen Blackbird, CTS, Oxford, Weber both ceramic and alnico, etc...) and so far my Jupiter 12 LC is the best for me. It has recognisable Blackface sound and outstanding quality. Still I wonder if the Alnico version (12 LA) would produce a different, perhaps rounder treble in the 2-3kHz range, because off the character of the amp.Last edited by PAG; 09-30-2023 at 03:46 AM.
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Originally Posted by PAG
Interesting that Your experience about early break up of WGS G12C/S. I play always so silently that nothing breaks up!
(Except in my Neil Young & The Crazy Horse band, breaking ups are an essential part of that music.)
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You can’t go wrong with Eminence Cannabis Rex.
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Originally Posted by Herbie
Last edited by PAG; 09-26-2023 at 07:00 PM.
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You needs several units for until find out.
C12K | Jensen LoudspeakersLast edited by kawa; 09-27-2023 at 11:05 AM. Reason: correcting
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My 1966 Princeton reverb has the stock jensen c10 . Sounds glorious.
I have put 12’s in for some people and it does sound good. But a good ten inch is really perfect. I have used jensen jet tornadoes and warehouse 10” American style. I think the ten is punchier in the bass than a 12”. I tried some 10” celestions a long time ago , but did not like them as well.
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
Last edited by PAG; 09-27-2023 at 11:10 AM.
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With 30 years of stage experience behind me, I don't really believe that there is a solution that is suitable for everyone. The quality of a product is primary. It is impossible for a speaker (or an amp) made in China or Mexico to perform as well as an American product that costs three times as much. Within this, however, taste and preferences will be decisive, which are naturally different. To mention just one example: do we want a vintage correct sound or does our music require something else?
Last edited by PAG; 12-21-2023 at 08:20 PM.
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I have a 1995 '65 Twin Ri with the original Eminence Fender branded 12s in it and they sound great. I think they are Eminence copies of Jensens that Fender used in the 60s.
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