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Originally Posted by Little Jay
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06-10-2019 08:52 AM
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Don't be fooled. He is not joking. That's his true feelings towards 335. He is on a mission. Planting a seed of doubt about the ES 335 world wide.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Summary: This thread is a bogus fraudulent troll thread designed to attract fools (me included). 4324 views in a week, most successful around here. Well done cowboy.
Some Jazz guitarists like to define themselves as acoustic players, others think of themselves as players of electric guitars. It's typically one way or the other;
- Guys that love acoustic guitars cannot accept that acoustics go out the window (or reveal itself as nasty feedback) the moment you plug in a magnetic pickup and turn up the volume.
- The rest of us like 335s. We like to be good looking (you know the Telecaster was never of any help in that regard, that's why Tele players need a Stetson hat and a pair of cowboy boots to divert attention. Yee-haw.)
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If those dancers were selling 335s, I'd buy 2. One from each. The devil made me do it.
Originally Posted by rabbit
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One of the best jazz players I know has an old 80's Ibanez Shredder guitar with a Floyd Rose and he plays through a tiny little Yamaha solid state student amp that he mics. He's been through some tough times and that's the equipment he can afford. And you know what? He's a great player and it sounds great.
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
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To resonate, or not to resonate.
If you have a guitar with a floating pick up, the Top (If it is carved), it is going to resonate but the volumes are going to have to be a lot less because you will be howling unless the box is stuffed with foam, at which point the box is no longer resonating.
Ushering in semi-hollows, and solid bodies. With semi-hollows and solid bodies the feedback issue is almost non-existent and the volumes can be increased and you don't have to sit in a certain spot with your amp at a certain angle...but I digress.
So the other alternative was volume with less feedback which is why pickups were mounted into the body which happened as a design alternative. When a hole is cut in the an arched top you are reducing the amount of the tops ability to resonate, if the top is carved. If it's a laminate top the resonation factor is already reduced - essentially an electric guitar. Anything with a humbucker mounted on top through a hole that goes through the top it's not going to resonate near as much as the old Archie's with the carved tops and a floater.
So you're stuck with a semi hollow-body guitar and what needs to be done is to find a pickup that matches the sound that you want to produce. And I don't know if that means output impedance or if that means special windings or what-have-you but the higher the output impedance the more it's going to sound like an a rocker and less like a jazzer. For instance a 6.5 impedance pickup might be a lot mellower sounding than a 9.5 or even a 7.5 and it it depends on the magnet material as well. if you're using alnico 5 or alnico 2, or ceramic or blades or pole pieces those effect into total sound that guitar is going to make.
Did I mention capacitors? In another words tone will be affected by any change or combination thereof. And that's the problem that this thread originator has with his 335, he has not dialed it in. He thinks another box is going to solve his problems, he's got a great platform to work with but he just has not learned how to work with that and to dial it in to suit his desires in tone.
Then there's the type and gauge of strings and string material.
Then there's the bridge material.
Then there's the cable going to the amp.
Then there's the amp.
And what speakers you have in the amp.
Everything adds up to your tonal output.Last edited by geogio; 06-17-2019 at 05:14 PM.
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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"flats+humbuckers+Polytone= kill me now"
Hmm? Worked well for Jim Hall, Herb Ellis, Joe Pass, etc.
Er, am I just feeding the trolls?
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Originally Posted by Greentone
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Originally Posted by Greentone
Yea, trolls on on a troll thread? Surprising! hahaha
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Some jazz cats agree that they don't need a 335. Not really a 'moratorium', but simply a matter of personal preference.
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[QUOTE=Gitfiddler;959551]Some jazz cats agree that they don't need a 335[QUOTE] Moratorium on saying jazz cats please
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[QUOTE=joe2758;959555][QUOTE=Gitfiddler;959551]Some jazz cats agree that they don't need a 335
Moratorium on saying jazz cats please
Dog = Bad instrument
No reason to change that.
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OMG isn’t this Christian playing one?
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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[QUOTE=joe2758;959555][QUOTE=Gitfiddler;959551]Some jazz cats agree that they don't need a 335
Moratorium on saying jazz cats please
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Deep fake
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i know what cat means; it just makes me cringe
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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For those who don't like Reverb any longer, or thinks everybody is sounding like they're playing in a stairwell ... SUFFA'...
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Chap, perhaps.
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I can't disagree with Christian on his 335 perspective, that's why I play a 535
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