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07-13-2020 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
(I actually forgot what amp I used here, but it's either my Fender Champion 20 on the Deluxe Reverb setting or my SF Princeton Reverb; I've used it with both of these in groups to good effect).
John
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Strats may be the single most malleable type of electric guitar in terms of sounds. It's true that you have to work a bit to get a classic jazz sound from them, but Chris Crocco sure does:
Nir Felder's sound is also close to mainstream:
And if you don't mind it sounding more conventionally like a strat, then it'll certainly fit idiomatically into jazz
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Great thread, I stumbled on it, and the forum, researching exactly this topic: Getting jazz sounds out of your Strat.
I play an 80's ESP Strat with 0.10–0.46 strings and the original pickups. So, not ideal for that sound. But I plugged it into my EBS bass amp, gave it some spring reverb, and at least I'm having fun improvising over drum and piano tunes.
Thanks a lot for all the inspiration! Might look into changing pickups and strings later. Or get a Les Paul.
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Originally Posted by DanielW
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Got a surprising warm sound out of this, even without tone knob and 9's . If it didn't have the floyd rose i would keep it. Great neck.
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FWIW, I love Stratocasters and Telecasters. I'll take one or the other to rehearsal today, in fact.
If I'm playing in a band, I will often use either one because they sit in the mix so well. By comparison, my archtops require a more spare setting. Trio/quartet--archtops work well; solo or duo, the archtop gets the nod.
Again, for solo jazz/for backing a singer/for playing in a trio, it's hard to beat a good archtop. Still, it's hard to resist just grabbing a Strat and running. I know that I can make it work.
Strat for jazz? Sure.
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11-23-2021, 03:11 PM #383Dutchbopper Guest
Dutch guitarist Tiago Lageiro boppin' out with Joey Francesco on his Haar Stratocaster. Erik van de Haar is a Dutch luthier building high end, custom made Strats and Teles.
Nice dry poppin' tone on this one.
DB
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Great stuff!
Thanks DB for the video link.
Best
Kris
ps.
What gauge of strings use Tiago with Strat?
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Sounds good to me.
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11-23-2021, 07:13 PM #386Dutchbopper GuestOriginally Posted by kris
DB
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
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Sounds fine to me - I think I hear some slight limiting, heavy strings+pick, and hum before the gate cuts it out. He would sound REALLY great on an archtop though !
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Sounds great. I have always felt that a Strat with a rosewood board makes for a fine jazz guitar and I have played many jazz gigs on a Strat myself.
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That was great thanks for that, it was fun to listen to!
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
Great virtual Duo with legendary organist.
Best
kris
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The new live action Cowboy Bebop on Netflix emphasizes the jazz music I did not remember from the anime.
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Originally Posted by John A.
This is an old post, but I think this is a very usable jazz tone which would cut through nicely in an ensemble situation. Proves that you don't need much (portable amp and a phone) in order to make a valuable, "eloquent" contribution to a thread, though I don't think John got any replies - until now!
People prefer blah-blah to actual sounds?
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After the course I've finally found this forum.
I have both tele ('52 AVRI) and strat ('62 CS) guitar. Both are good for playing jazz but I didn't try to recreate 'classic' jazz guitar sounds 1-1.
Strat pickups could be with piercing highs but it's quite easy to achieve a dark sound for a neck pickup or neck-middle position:
1) turn off a volume a bit and a tone for a half
2) change pickups - my strat equipped with nacho-poblano pickups which are quite hot and neck is not screaming at all
3) at home, when I use Fender Princeton Reverb I put Chase Tone Secret Preamp (EP-3 delay preamp circuit) in middle or dark mode. During the night solo jams I use Tonex with tweed amp models (for heavy mids + light fuzzy sound) + Hitsville chamber reverb (which is tend to recreate motown studio reverb).
These 3 points create a very pleasant feel of sound appropriate to jazz guitar music for my taste.
I also swapped to flatwounds as an experiment with mixed feeling of it
There is a distinctive difference between 52' tele neck pickup and 62'strat poblano neck pickup, but with amps/tone models and room/artificial reverb there is a lot more difference in tone than the difference between pickups.
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