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[QUOTE=jazzshrink;1312225]I guess my confusion stems from your assertion that "the string slides over the bridge easily". Does it really? I can easily see how this kind of movement occurs when you use a tremolo bar. But otherwise, how can I observe this movement you're talking about? Thanks in advance.[/
This is a good point, which requires some sharpening of my thinking.
When you deflect the string, what happens? Increased tension, I should think, in light of the fact that the pitch rises. If the string is under greater tension, wouldn't that include the portion behind the bridge?
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01-23-2024 03:16 AM
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Sorry, but I don't fully understand what you meant by "deflecting" the string. That being said, I would think the answer to your question is "no". As I said before, when I fret or bend a string and simultaneously pluck that string between the bridge and tailpiece, there's no change in the pitch. With a change in tension, wouldn't the pitch have to change?
Last edited by jazzshrink; 01-23-2024 at 12:03 PM.
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My guess is that the degree to which the lengths of string on either saddle are coupled depends on break angle over the bridge and string length behind the bridge. All I can say is that on my guitar they appear not to be. I can also say is that my guitar does not have subjectively noticeably different string tension from the specific stop-tail 335 I’ve compared it to. I’m happy to have my mind changed by evidence to the contrary.
Last edited by John A.; 01-23-2024 at 04:34 PM.
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Bending or fretting it.
In a bend, you are tightening the string (the main part), which is why the pitch increases.
Seems to me that the pitch would have to change behind the bridge unless the bridge actually becomes a barrier. Perhaps not audibly?
Suppose you pluck the string behind the bridge while turning the tuning key to make the string sharper.
If the bridge is a barrier, you shouldn't hear a change in pitch. I'll have to try that later today.
EDIT: I just tried it. When I pluck behind the bridge and bend the B string, I can clearly hear the pitch shift. Same if I move the tuner. The bridge did not act as a barrier. Since the plinky sounding note behind the bridge increases in pitch when I bend or tune the string, the string must be under more tension behind the bridge.Last edited by rpjazzguitar; 01-23-2024 at 04:48 PM.
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I tried it on mine, E, B, and G strings. With bending, there’s no change in pitch until a certain threshold - it takes a bit more than half-step bend to produce a change in pitch behind the bridge, and the change is quite distinct. When just fretting the string without bending there’s no change in pitch behind the string no matter where I fret the string.
Friction is a force. If you apply only a smaller force, you won’t overcome it and the string won’t move relative to the saddle.
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