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Originally Posted by Michael Neverisky
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02-28-2021 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by d115
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Originally Posted by Joeontheguitar
I tried TrueFire before and it wasn't working for me for the exact reason you might like it. Too many options. I'm not that disciplined and found myself all over the place and was in a new thing almost everyday. I was there for acoustic fingerstyle so just imagine the options.
I went back to TrueFire yesterday but only for Frank Vignola's Jazz Studio as someone here recommended I check out. It's focused and that's what I need. So that and I'm thinking Barry Greene's stuff and I won't be spread too thin.
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Originally Posted by Endaro
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Originally Posted by cris1xy
There's a huge difference between the teachers. For example, Frank Vignola usually goes slow and explain everything you need to know. Fareed Hacque is a great teacher and I love his comping course, but sometimes I have to rewind and play what he says at least a couple of times to get what he means.
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Originally Posted by cris1xy
- Woodshed the five fingerings (down from the 6 or 7 in the old DVD series). This, in my view, unlocks the fretboard.
- Jimmy assigns you a tune: Satin Doll, Blue Bossa are among his favorite first tunes. Lean the head, the chords and
play a 100% diatonic solo based on a position. His thinking is, in my mind, you can make music with do-re-mi and you
need to know how to work with this set of tools before venturing into "outside notes". - Improvisation in different positions and connecting the positions. He has thoughts on how to do this.
- Guided ways to adding "outside notes", in Jimmy's language.
What I find particularly useful is the non-verbal communication. Jimmy can make a jazz line with a diatonic scale which,
to my ear, he makes sound more musical and relevant... and swing, than someone who might start hopping around an
altered dominant scale. Not that he can't and doesn't do that! It's just not necessary to make a good sounding line in his
pedagogy.
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Jimmy Bruno also breaks down his "major scale as a starting point methodology" in his two Hot Licks DVDs. Great stuff.
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Originally Posted by JoeW
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Originally Posted by cris1xy
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Originally Posted by JoeW
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Originally Posted by Endaro
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Although I haven't started as of yet, I just joined Jens Larsen's "The Jazz Guitar Roadmap" course. I've followed him for quite a while now on YT and I like his teaching style and the content quality of his videos.
If you join and find it's not for you, he offers a 30-Day money back guarantee.
Jens is also a member here.
Good luck and
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Originally Posted by marcwhy
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After many half-finished TF courses, a couple of improvisation workshops, YT videos, books etc - I also decided to sign up for Jens Larsen's "The Jazz Guitar Roadmap" course earlier this week. I've only looked at the 2 first 2 chapters and find them instructive, well organised and useful. Being able to play a beginner level improvised solo with only a few notes after a few weeks will be great achievement, and I am planning to apply the same song/melody/soloing principles to other standards as well.
It was either Jens Larsen or Richie Zellon, and I also felt that after having looked at Jens's YT channel and videos for a long time now, it was time to give something back to him for all his efforts.
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+1 for Richie Zellon. If I may add, Dana Rasch has several comprehensive courses to chose from at visualguidetones
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I've been on the "The Jazz Guitar Roadmap" program for 2 weeks now and it's been great. I probably played more guitar in the last 2 weeks than ever before, and it motivated me to pick up other courses as well. What I like about the course (and I assume that would be the same for other courses as well) is the small steps to 'learn' soloing and improvising. It starts with 2 notes, then the arpeggio followed by the scale, and later on color notes etc. I've spent a lot of time soloing with just 2 notes and/or arpeggio on a ii-V, and I'll probably spend another 2 weeks just doing that before moving on.
The main frustration - if may call it that - is that I seem to spend a whole week just playing 4 notes and still not being happy with the results. There's no rush though, and I am more than happy to use the next couple of weeks if not months to internalise these exercises and them apply them to many other jazz standards.
This discussion topic finally motivated me to start a course, and I am extremely happy I did that. Thanks to everybody who contributed. 2 other benefits so far - I am getting better at identifying chords changes in the backing track and find my way back into the track when I get lost, and learning from recording myself and listening back. Plus I play much more guitar, even getting up at 6am to spend 1hr praticising before work.
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Originally Posted by bloos66
In that way you are doing "Imitate" (etudes/transcribed solos) and "Assimilate" (step-by-step improv course) at the same time.
After all, it's going to take some time before your improvisation capability reaches a high level (years) but you can/should be playing pro-level solos much sooner, as long as you're patient and steady with that study as well. Just make sure that the etudes/solos that you select are prioritized in a level-appropriate manner as well.
The goal is for the two paths to cross and become like one, someday.
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Originally Posted by Donplaysguitar
For a jazz beginner like me, learning to play a 'good sounding' and swinging solo with just 2 notes, the arpeggio and/or scale will take quite a bit of time, but this time around I determined to go all the way :-)
I am also using a book series called 'Essential Elements Jazz-Play Along' by Michael Sweeney. The first book is an introduction to basic jazz blues soloing, the other books have jazz standards in them with suggested solos. They are mainly for jazz ensembles, and I used the way back when I played tenor sax and bass in a jazz big band. One day, I'll take over the guitar chair <g>
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I’m impressed with Barry Greene’s site but I wonder if the learning curve might be a bit steep for someone starting out.
I certainly appreciate being able to go back over a lesson, several times if necessary.
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Originally Posted by Bach5G
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Originally Posted by cris1xy
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Originally Posted by alltunes
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This thread motivated me to give Trufire a shot and I am glad I did. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by skypeace
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looking for new material...i just bought the jazz saxophonist from pg music 10 compelling solos from jack stafford tenor sax.. all laid out in concert key..nice interplay with jack..jazz guitar can be an island..my eye caught franks truefire course at $10 month and access to all his vids...will be signing up..franks human approach too...another reason...moneys tight...read on...Berklee Online ($1300/4 mo course), 3 years of weekly in person lessons ($75/hr) FRANKS A GIFT
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