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  1. #126

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    This is the distinction (comping versus rhythm guitar) I've been going on about for years that I get a lot of pushback on! Good to hear an established gent such as Herb say it too.

    As for the upstroke, Freddie probably didn't do it because he was so focused on that 4th string.

    To my ears, it sounds better on a low volume electric archtop than on an acoustic archtop. Even minimal use of amplification seems to even everything out more, making the upstroke not sound too jarringly different.

    There's also that possible upstroke on the and of 4 you hear Jim Hall do in the famous "My Funny Valentine" bit.

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  3. #127

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    There's also that possible upstroke on the and of 4 you hear Jim Hall do in the famous "My Funny Valentine" bit.
    This one?


  4. #128

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    That's the one.

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    Here's a guy who transcribed Jim Hall

    (Slower)


    (Faster)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden View Post
    Herb's distinction between what he calls "Rhythm Guitar" and "Guitar Comping" is interesting.

    After 40mins on the video, the "Rhythm Guitar" and "Guitar Comping" section of his tutorial.

    What minute? I couldn't find it.

  7. #131

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlieparker View Post
    What minute? I couldn't find it.
    44:21 Background
    44:52 Rhythm
    47:55 Comping

  8. #132

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    I used only 3 note bass chords for my comping on this... well, there is a 4 note 7#9 chord in there but it's a blues so that's to be expected.

    Blues for Spartacus - Box.com

    Last edited by Mick-7; Today at 04:17 PM. Reason: Link error

  9. #133

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic View Post
    I got this book a while ago for a rhythm section I work with:

    https://www.shermusic.com/9780991077335.php

    I've always kind of wanted to go through it with guitar, so maybe I'll do that.
    Alright … so this is a blues in A … progressively more chromatic approach notes for side slipping.

    I am aware that this is not yet music. Moving on to phase two here shortly.


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    That's cool, Pammo. I never really did more than the 1 fret one. I think the other ones sound better with the more rhythmic style at the end. Gunna try this. Stop teaching me I have too much to work on.

  11. #135

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    post something joe! join the club!

  12. #136

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent.h View Post
    post something joe! join the club!
    yeah maybe, i guess it has been a while. So is it just basically play through a tune in a FG style? Anything else? Seems people are including other things

  13. #137

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    Just play some rhythm guitar!

    The only thing its not is pianistic "comping."

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    yeah maybe, i guess it has been a while. So is it just basically play through a tune in a FG style? Anything else? Seems people are including other things
    ya straight fours like what pete did

    i was being extra most of the time cos i was experimenting

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic View Post
    Alright … so this is a blues in A … progressively more chromatic approach notes for side slipping.

    I am aware that this is not yet music. Moving on to phase two here shortly.

    Very similar to how I comp all the time in guitar duos, but I use Bass notes on some of the 'and' beats as 'Skips'. I played Double Bass for many years.

    Edit: But, Trefor Owen is a master at this type of Rhythm Guitar.
    Last edited by GuyBoden; 06-19-2026 at 04:06 PM.

  16. #140

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    The next little chunk is:

    Diatonic approach from above
    Diatonic above chromatic below
    Double chromatic above, chromatic below.

    Im going to use diatonic chords for the diatonic approaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic View Post
    The next little chunk is:

    Diatonic approach from above
    Diatonic above chromatic below
    Double chromatic above, chromatic below.

    Im going to use diatonic chords for the diatonic approaches.
    Interesting exercise.

    When I walk FG voicings, I'm using the Barry Harris thing a lot of the time.

  18. #142

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    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    meh
    Ok I'm stealing some moves.

  20. #144

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    Here's how I play 'Rhythm Guitar' on a Jazz blues, it's very bass note heavy, because I played Double Bass for many years.



    It's played on my Green D'Aquisto archtop copy with my trusty Rode NT3 mic in the room.

    Edit: The basic notation is shown below:
    The Summer of Rhythm Guitar 2026: Take a Walk on the mild side-jazz-blues-g-png

  21. #145

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden View Post
    Very similar to how I comp all the time in guitar duos, but I use Bass notes on some of the 'and' beats as 'Skips'. I played Double Bass for many years.

    Edit: But, Trefor Owen is a master at this type of Rhythm Guitar.
    I’m not sure who is who. The player accompanying first up is swinging really nicely there.

    This isn’t really rhythm guitar as I understand it. More of a Joe Pass thing.

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  22. #146

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden View Post
    Here's how I play 'Rhythm Guitar' on a Jazz blues, it's very bass note heavy, because I played Double Bass for many years.



    It's played on my Green D'Aquisto archtop copy with my trusty Rode NT3 mic in the room.

    Edit: The basic notation is shown below:
    The Summer of Rhythm Guitar 2026: Take a Walk on the mild side-jazz-blues-g-png
    Sounding good!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller View Post
    I’m not sure who is who. The player accompanying first up is swinging really nicely there.

    This isn’t really rhythm guitar as I understand it. More of a Joe Pass thing.
    Trefor Owen is playing 'Rhythm Guitar' first. Yes, he really swings to my ears too. I really enjoy playing guitar with Trefor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller View Post
    Sounding good!
    Many thanks, I've been practising. You'd never guess, but practising seems to work.

  24. #148

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    This is how I'm playing these days. Quite old school. Notice that I'm using only grips from the Jonathan Stout hand out lol.


    I was enjoying this gig honest. playing with Sousa is fun.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller View Post
    This is how I'm playing these days. Quite old school. Notice that I'm using only grips from the Jonathan Stout hand out lol.


    I was enjoying this gig honest. playing with Sousa is fun.


    Excellent, very enjoyable. Yes, fun.

    Great Tune.

    You make it look so easy, then just throw in a chord solo.

    I've got to say the Tuba is fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden View Post
    Excellent, very enjoyable. Yes, fun.

    Great Tune.

    You make it look so easy, then just throw in a chord solo.

    I've got to say the Tuba is fantastic.
    Yeah Graham Hughes is one of the best. Great time, which isn't easy on Tuba (or Sousa).