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LOL back in early 70's when I gigged with Brazilian musicians... they all wanted to play funk and jazz.
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02-02-2020 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Reg
in Paris in recent years, Cuban and Puerto Rican percussionists have been breaking salaries in gigs and concerts. I have excellent friends Colombian percussionist who have lost their place in orchestras for this reason
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I remember visiting Brazil a few years back, it was really difficult to find places to hear Bossa Nova music. All my Brazilian musicians friends more or less said the same thing, that bossa nova in Brazil is not popular, and it is the music of the elderly. And that most internationally known names mainly tour abroad basically. For youth, it was Rock, Pop, Hip hop etc..
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02-03-2020, 04:30 AM #79joelf GuestOriginally Posted by Marinero
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Originally Posted by Alter
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Originally Posted by Patlotch
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Cst?
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What was the cnt movement?
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" Here again the Brazilians in the room knew all the songs, some even wouldn't stop singing the whole show, it got almost annoying." m_d
Hi, m_d,
Sometimes we need to remember that music began with early man singing around campfires, while on the hunt or working a planted patch in a seasonal camp. It expressed their feelings of love, sorrow, loss, happiness and remembrance of times past in a simple but profound way. How wonderful, for me, to have moved an audience in such a way. Perhaps, one day I will be so fortunate. Good playing . . . Marinero
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02-04-2020, 09:58 PM #85joelf GuestOriginally Posted by m_d
They have their reasons---and I also suspect among the poor it's partly resentment of the middle and upper classes. Bossa was hated bourgeois music of the idle rich to them. Hate people and you hate everything about them. Sad, but that's the way a lot of people are. They can't see past their pain...
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this was one of my first records, in 1967. You can enjoy on some tunes Kenny Burrel on nylon acoustic guitar, and the majestic sound of the Bean, very different from Getz, Tommy Flanagan's delicate piano, and a very discreet rhythm section (Major Holley - bass, Eddie Locke - drums, Ray Barretto - congas), swinging even if it is not very "brezilian""
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Originally Posted by Jim Todd
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My experience is Brazilians here in London, like to hear it played, they know all the songs, maybe like I know the Beatles and my mum knows show songs....like a romantic version of home I guess.... homesickness is a powerful emotion.
that and Chorinhos...
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I've avoided this thread up until now because of fundamental problems with the title.
I have to be able to define jazz, define bossa nova and define "kill". I guess I'm okay with "did".
According to the first generation of artists associated with bossa nova, American jazz influenced them, particularly chord voicings. They talk about having passed around an album Barney Kessel did with Julie London and lifted voicings from that.
One well known Rio musician says that Bossa Nova was an era, not a musical style. He says the style is samba. Or, a samba variant, among many samba variants.
If you ask an American to play a bossa nova beat, the American can do it and it will sound familiar. But, if you ask a Brazilian, the answer you may get is a laugh and "there is no bossa nova beat; every song is different".
Bossa Nova is no more dead than bop or swing. Joyce remains a vibrant artist (Christian, thanks for posting that terrific clip of Feminina). Rosa Passos is another. Google lists many others, of different ages. American jazz players play bossas as part of standards gigs all the time. etc etc.
Bossa was a craze about 60 years ago. Of course things have moved forward. But, like swing and bop, it continues to be influential and continues to be played.
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
in a way, rock more killed jazz than jazz killed bossa-nova
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
Originally Posted by Patlotch
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A nice blond and Mickey Rooney on drums
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