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Originally Posted by JohnW400
i use triads a lot in this regard; for example, F, C, and G (as well as Dm, Am and Em) for Dm7 and major triads separated by minor thirds from its V chord for an A13b9 sound: A, C, Eb and Gb. applying the half-step chromaticism to the triads of the tonic (such as Db to C or E to F) are good here too; as for all things in life, season to taste
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07-11-2012 02:36 PM
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Great stuff. Let's continue with that. It seems we're stuck here
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Originally Posted by JohnW400
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one of the things you can do to get unstuck in pentatonics is to mix 'em up freely as to not be in either:
Am pentatonic / Em pentatonic as
1) A minor pentatonic add B (A B C D E G)
where the B is introduced sparingly
2) E minor pentatonic add C (A B C D E G)
where the C is introduced sparingly
3) the B and C used freely, as in a true hexatonic...
i use the Am and Em triads a lot when employing this, to project an Am9 as a sonority within the embedded triads:
-----------------------------------------------------5-----7---5-8-7-
-----------------------------------5-----5---5-8---5---5-8---5-------
-----------------------4-----5---4-----5---4-----5-------------------
-----------5-----7---5-----7---5-----7-------------------------------
-----7---7-----7---7-----7-------------------------------------------
-5-8---7-----8-------------------------------------------------------
i realize that the "box pattern" used here is cumbersome from a "arpeggio" standpoint, that especially the G on the second string may best be fingered on the first; however, i wanted to keep the tabs as "square" as possible. for the record, i use a twelve-position system that freely incorporates the double-whole-step stretches used here:
-----------------------------------3-5-7------------
--------------------------*[3]-5-7------------------
-------------------4-5-[7]*-------------------------
-------------4-5-7----------------------------------
-------3-5-7----------------------------------------
-3-5-7----------------------------------------------
which are often way more appropriate for arpeggio-type situations. apologies also to john for running with the word "stuck" because it immediately reminded me of a zappa tune
the D above middle C may be played on either the second or third string, hence the brackets...
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Your first pattern reminds me of some interval studies using pentatonics
Ami (4ths/3rds)
------------------------------------------5---
-----------------------------5-----8----5-------
-----------------5-----7---5-----7----5-----------
-----5----7----5-----7---5-----7-------------------
---5-----7---5-----7-----------------------------
-5-----8---------------------------------------
(5ths/6th
-------------------------------------8----------
-----------------5------8-----5----5----------------
-----5----7----------5------7----------------------
---------5-----7-----------5------7-----------------
---7---------5------7----------------------------
-5-----8---------------------------------------
The next ones would be 6ths/7ths (AGE, CAG etc)
For octaves you could do compund octaves or you could mix the octave with a different the interval say, do power chords (AEA, CGC, DAD, ECE* , GDG. ) * E+ power chord
or 148 (ADA ect)
I would do these off of the major and its modes.
And of course you could do this with any pentatonic like my favorite, the Kumoi scale (1 2 b3 5 6) or as I also call it, the tonic minor pentatonic
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Lets not forget about panditonic chords for this scale either.
You can take 3,4 5 or 6 notes and move them through the pentatonic. One of my favorites is (in C)
xxGCDE (xx5530)
this moves like this:
xxGCDE
xxADEG
XXCEGA
xxDGAC
xxEACD
A nice 5 note version
GDxCEA
AExDGC
CGxEAD
DAxGCE (12X343)
ECxADG (13x244)
Chunking, does it work for Jazz improv?
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