I Can't Un-hear This.

[brent.h]

There's a forum member here that goes by 'bonsritmos'.

Some time back, he talked about the rhythmic DNA of jazz and explicated how connected this music is to old Afro-Brazilian rhythms. I watched his YouTube video, entitled "Louis Armstrong Hot Fives With Ketu Opanije", and I was blown away.

I learnt the rhythm, and then I tried singing it over Lester Young's solo on Lady Be Good (the record) and After You're Gone (live broadcast). The rhythm and the solos lined up so incredibly well that it felt 'eerie'. I couldn't un-hear it. There's even a part in Prez's solo on Lester Leaps In (the record) where he plays this Opanije rhythm almost verbatim!

Goodness, is this it? Is this the secret rhythmic base to creating old-style, groovy solos?

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

The main contribution from Africa to American music is rhythm.

[Christian Miller]

There's a forum member here that goes by 'bonsritmos'.

Some time back, he talked about the rhythmic DNA of jazz and explicated how connected this music is to old Afro-Brazilian rhythms.

I watched his YouTube video, entitled "Louis Armstrong Hot Fives With Ketu Opanije", and I was blown away.

I learnt the rhythm, and then I tried singing it over Lester Young's solo on Lady Be Good (the record) and After You're Gone (live broadcast).

The rhythm and the solos lined up so incredibly well that it felt 'eerie'. I couldn't un-hear it.

There's even a part in Prez's solo on Lester Leaps In (the record) where he plays this Opanije rhythm almost verbatim!

Goodness, is this it?

Is this the secret rhythmic base to creating old-style, groovy solos?

It’s cool isn’t it?


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[brent.h]

It’s cool isn’t it?

Yep.

I feel like this rhythm thing should be jazz pedagogy 101 foundational stuff.. not the arps, scales, licks, whatever

[charlieparker]

Yep.

I feel like this rhythm thing should be jazz pedagogy 101 foundational stuff.. not the arps, scales, licks, whatever

Agree, I guess that, "It don't mean a thing...", is deeper than it seems.

[brent.h]

Below is the Opanije rhythm, and in bold is how I hear its accents:

Measure 1:

1, 1&, 2
3, 3&, 4

Measure 2:

1, 1&
2&, 3&, 4

Now, I'm thinking of a way to internalise this Opanije rhythm even further.

Do you guys think that tapping my foot on downbeat of 1 and on downbeat of 3 (like a two-feel) will help with the internalisation of this rhythm?

[Christian Miller]

Below is the Opanije rhythm, and in bold is how I hear its accents:

Measure 1:

1, 1&, 2
3, 3&, 4

Measure 2:

1, 1&
2&, 3&, 4

Now, I'm thinking of a way to internalise this Opanije rhythm even further.

Do you guys think that tapping my foot on downbeat of 1 and on downbeat of 3 (like a two-feel) will help with the internalisation of this rhythm?

Seems good to me. Just tried it, and it feels good.


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[docsteve]

Try Pennsylvania 65000 as a model.


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[brent.h]

Try Pennsylvania 65000 as a model.

Nice.

[brent.h]

Whoa, I just heard Johnny St Cyr play the 2nd measure of the Opanije rhythm verbatim!

On Heebie Jeebies, he plays this descending line from Ab7 (I7) into Db (IV) at 1:38:

Ab, G, Gb, Eb, C
1, 1&, 2&, 3&, 4

I love it! So cool!