Now, what about tunes that use the bVI?

**PMB** · 02-21-2025, 04:37 PM

B, B & B is the ultimate 'augmented' progression. I wonder if it was in some way an influence on Coltrane's Giant Steps? On that note, how about the bridge of Have You Met Miss Jones?

**Christian Miller** · 02-21-2025, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by PMB

Interesting how many tunes modulate up rather than down a major 3rd. Three come immediately come to mind that are often played in the key of F major moving to A major: I Love You, I'm Old Fashioned, Polka Dots and Moonbeams.

How about you, tangerine. Shiny stockings as well

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**PMB** · 02-21-2025, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Christian Miller

How about you, tangerine. Shiny stockings as well

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Ok, what tunes usually played in F don't modulate to A?

**Christian Miller** · 02-22-2025, 09:38 AM

Literally none. If I Were a Bell is another.

**pamosmusic** · 02-22-2025, 10:59 AM

The Song is You and Prelude to a Kiss from C to E

**PMB** · 02-22-2025, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Christian Miller

How about you, tangerine. Shiny stockings as well

I played Shiny Stockings a couple of weeks ago and didn't think of it going up from F to A. Maybe it's because it moves there by stealth, ie via the intervening tone (I was also accompanying my daughter in the key of C moving to E).

**PMB** · 02-22-2025, 05:27 PM

Back on topic but still in the key of F, Easy Living is one that goes the other way to the bVI in the bridge (F to Db).

**pamosmusic** · 02-22-2025, 05:30 PM

Do Nothing Til You Hear From Me goes to the bVI

**Christian Miller** · 02-22-2025, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by PMB

I played Shiny Stockings a couple of weeks ago and didn't think of it going up from F to A. Maybe it's because it moves there by stealth, ie via the intervening tone (I was also accompanying my daughter in the key of C moving to E).

It creeps up there with sneaky 2 5s…. one things leads to another….

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**PMB** · 02-22-2025, 06:02 PM

Between The Devil and the Deep Blue Sea and Beyond The Sea: two more 'sea' tunes in F (!) that move to A in the bridge. Also Portrait of Jennie although it only makes a quick pit stop there.

**PMB** · 02-22-2025, 06:10 PM

Christian mentioned Lullaby of the Leaves as a minor tune that goes to the bVI in the bridge (however it's not a modulation). Another one that just popped into my head is You and the Night and the Music.