1945 D’Angelico Excel - Player’s Grade

[andrew]

Just a moment...

Genuine 1940s D’Angelico Excel with an old top seam separation and a headstock repair for $9,500. Seems to be getting a lot of attention. 5 offers in the first few hours. And it “sold” at one point and then reappeared for sale again a short time later.

I have no affiliation with the seller, just an admirer. It’s pretty hard to get a D’A for less than five figures in this day and age, let alone an Excel.

[Stringswinger]

I am surprised it has lasted this long at that price. Opportunity knocks.

[nyc chaz]

It could be an opportunity or just a future headache.I would have to see that guitar in person to buy it.When something seems too good to be true it usually is in my experience.

[wintermoon]

Now where have I seen that before?
It was here.....

Excel – Natural – Davidson's Well Strung Guitars – We Buy and Sell Vintage Guitars Excel – Natural – Davidson's Well Strung Guitars – We Buy and Sell Vintage Guitars

then it was here....

SOLD - 1945 D'Angelico Excel Acoustic Archtop - Natural - OHSC | thatrhythmman SOLD - 1945 D'Angelico Excel Acoustic Archtop - Natural - OHSC | thatrhythmman

Now it's there....

[Mick-7]

Now where have I seen that before?
It was here.....

Excel – Natural – Davidson's Well Strung Guitars – We Buy and Sell Vintage Guitars Excel – Natural – Davidson's Well Strung Guitars – We Buy and Sell Vintage Guitars

then it was here....

SOLD - 1945 D'Angelico Excel Acoustic Archtop - Natural - OHSC | thatrhythmman SOLD - 1945 D'Angelico Excel Acoustic Archtop - Natural - OHSC | thatrhythmman

Now it's there....

$8k less?! (second listing) How long ago was that?

[Stringswinger]

Now where have I seen that before?
It was here.....

Excel – Natural – Davidson's Well Strung Guitars – We Buy and Sell Vintage Guitars Excel – Natural – Davidson's Well Strung Guitars – We Buy and Sell Vintage Guitars

then it was here....

SOLD - 1945 D'Angelico Excel Acoustic Archtop - Natural - OHSC | thatrhythmman SOLD - 1945 D'Angelico Excel Acoustic Archtop - Natural - OHSC | thatrhythmman

Now it's there....

Chuck's price seems about what I would expect and I assume he sold it for less than he was asking, but way more than the current price. I wonder if this is a scam listing? Like Chaz said about when things seem too good.....

[Mick-7]

Chuck's price seems about what I would expect and I assume he sold it for less than he was asking, but way more than the current price. I wonder if this is a scam listing? Like Chaz said about when things seem too good.....

Well, it's not a new seller, that is quite a price drop though! -- charlies-gear-emporium-50/feedback

[Stringswinger]

Well, it's not a new seller, that is quite price drop though! -- charlies-gear-emporium-50/feedback

If it is not a scam, it is a seriously good deal. Perhaps Chuck will chime in ? Perhaps Chuck will buy it and sell it again?

[andrew]

My first thought when I saw the listing was "This is either a scam or it's had some serious damage". The second one is obviously true. I can't say for certain that it's NOT a scam, but the fact that the seller has 94 positive transactions on Reverb dating back to 2019 does bode well for its legitimacy. As always, caveat emptor.

[Stringswinger]

My first thought when I saw the listing was "This is either a scam or it's had some serious damage". The second one is obviously true. I can't say for certain that it's NOT a scam, but the fact that the seller has 94 positive transactions on Reverb dating back to 2019 does bode well for its legitimacy. As always, caveat emptor.

Positive feedback means little on a hacked account.

[wintermoon]

Highly doubt it's a scam, the seller has a number of guitars listed, all shot w the same background.

[ThatRhythmMan]

That listing appears to be the account of the guy I sold it to. The location is right and so is the name.

The guitar is good and the headstock repair seemed solid. I don’t see any obvious new damage. That price is considerably less than I sold it for.


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[AllanAllen]

It’s sold now.

[Stringswinger]

It’s sold now.

Someone scored a good deal. Anyone here? If I didn't already own 3 non cut DA'S, I would have pulled the trigger on that one for sure.

[Mick-7]

Six offers within 8 hours, that is some poor marketing. You don't price it low if you're wide open to accepting offers.

[wintermoon]

Six offers within 8 hours, that is some poor marketing. You don't price it low if you're wide open to accepting offers.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge, I'm sure he's not an idiot, no one knows more than he does how much of a loss he's taking. There could be a number of reasons why, maybe the guy needs to raise $ fast and can't afford to wait around to max his return, who knows?

[nyc chaz]

I wouldn't be so quick to judge, I'm sure he's not an idiot, no one knows more than he does how much of a loss he's taking. There could be a number of reasons why, maybe the guy needs to raise $ fast and can't afford to wait around to max his return, who knows?

Looking at his webpage on Reverb,he seems to be making at least a partial living from selling guitars.Not saying he's an idiot but i think it's safe to say he's not much of a businessman when you take that kind of loss in resale.

[deacon Mark]

Looking at his webpage on Reverb,he seems to be making at least a partial living from selling guitars.Not saying he's an idiot but i think it's safe to say he's not much of a businessman when you take that kind of loss in resale.

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On the whole in general Reverb seems to have businessmen who don't need to sell guitars. I would say at least the higher end archtop I look at are way overpriced. Some have been for sale for years. You cannot make money if you don't sell a guitar. For what is it is worth I might be suspect of the D'a and is there something going on we don't see. That said anyone can make a deal at times. i would have easily gave the fellow the money except I would have to have had the guitar in hand.

[nyc chaz]

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On the whole in general Reverb seems to have businessmen who don't need to sell guitars. I would say at least the higher end archtop I look at are way overpriced. Some have been for sale for years. You cannot make money if you don't sell a guitar. For what is it is worth I might be suspect of the D'a and is there something going on we don't see. That said anyone can make a deal at times. i would have easily gave the fellow the money except I would have to have had the guitar in hand.

You can get a great deal on Reverb, even on archtops.They are usually gone within hours of posting.Some are bought by dealers and repost on Reverb 2 weeks later at a much heftier price.

[Mick-7]

I wouldn't be so quick to judge, I'm sure he's not an idiot, no one knows more than he does how much of a loss he's taking. There could be a number of reasons why, maybe the guy needs to raise $ fast and can't afford to wait around to max his return, who knows?

Sure, manure happens, but no one should be in such a hurry that they have to sell a guitar like that in 1 day (less than 8 hours in this case). If he'd added a few thousand dollars to his price he still would have quickly received several offers.

And never stock a lot of Ovation guitars.

[Stringswinger]

You can get a great deal on Reverb, even on archtops.They are usually gone within hours of posting.Some are bought by dealers and repost on Reverb 2 weeks later at a much heftier price.

The best deals in life have happened for me in two ways, to wit;

1) Buying in a severe economic downturn. The Rothschild banking family had a saying "Buy to the sound of cannons and sell to the sound of trumpets" It is hard to buy things when prices are falling (one can postulate that the price will fall further), but fortune favors the strong. Make the buy and don't look back. Long term, most desirable assets appreciate and when you buy in a downturn, you almost always look like a genius when things come back.

2) Buying quickly without much deliberation. If you snooze, you lose. There are people who for whatever reason are desperate for cash. Someone is going to get a great buy from them; it might as well be you so long as you can live with the moral dilemma of taking advantage of the misfortune or ignorance of someone else.

[nyc chaz]

The best deals in life have happened for me in two ways, to wit;

1) Buying in a severe economic downturn. The Rothschild banking family had a saying "Buy to the sound of cannons and sell to the sound of trumpets" It is hard to buy things when prices are falling (one can postulate that the price will fall further), but fortune favors the strong. Make the buy and don't look back. Long term, most desirable assets appreciate and when you buy in a downturn, you almost always look like a genius when things come back.

2) Buying quickly without much deliberation. If you snooze, you lose. There are people who for whatever reason are desperate for cash. Someone is going to get a great buy from them; it might as well be you so long as you can live with the moral dilemma of taking advantage of the misfortune or ignorance of someone else.

That's the way i have gotten good deals,know what you want and don't hesitate to hit that buy button.I would not be surprised if that D'angelico was bought by a dealer and we will see it posted again soon at a hefty price increase.

[nyc chaz]

[QUOTE=Mick-7;1430169]Sure, manure happens, but no one should be in such a hurry that they have to sell a guitar like that in 1 day (less than 8 hours in this case). If he'd added a few thousand dollars to his price he still would have quickly received several offers.

And never stock a lot of Ovation guitars. [/QUOTE

I agree with you.If the seller had listed at a price of say 12K ,It probably would have sold within a week.That being said,i'm still dubious about the condition of that guitar.Hopefully whoever bought it didn't get hosed.

[deacon Mark]

I remember going to guitar shows 25 years ago and you spend 3 days there looking all around. But you wait till the last day in the final few hours and then go on a buy mission. Some simply do not want to pack up a guitar and go home with it. My best deals have happened when I was not so much looking for a guitar but then they show up. This takes away the GAS and you think clearer in the process. I might add that the best deals I have ever gotten were because of this forum. I have scored great guitars at least indirectly because of the forum. I knew the person selling or the forum member had a contact and could make connections.

Finally, it never hurts to be reasonable and friendly even if the price is a low ball on your part. A person can say no easy enough. Real low-ball stuff is maybe not a great idea unless you simply don't care if you get the guitar. I have had few discussions with Rudy over the phone about Dangelico's and he even wanted some information on a guitar he had. His prices are pretty way out but I always think maybe he will have something I can live with. So far not yet but I am trying. Sometimes it is not the highest offer but the easiest transaction as time is money.

I posed this to a dealer on a guitar, and it worked fine. I said I can be at your store tomorrow with cash, no fees, no packing, and it is a done deal. The dealer was actually very moved and gave me great price.

[Sam Sherry]

Sure, manure happens, but no one should be in such a hurry that they have to sell a guitar like that in 1 day (less than 8 hours in this case).

Maestro, the question is never whether anyone should be in such a hurry.
Sometimes you're in a hurry and guitars matter less than getting out of a jam.

It sounds like you have been able to avoid those situations and I'm happy on your behalf.

They come and they go, man. You can only play one at a time.