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Another vote for the Shure SM81, or rather a pair of them. The first pointed at the soundhole, the other at about the 12th fret or higher.
Originally Posted by John A.
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04-19-2021 11:50 AM
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Peluso - you might want to give them a look.
Last edited by Donplaysguitar; 04-20-2021 at 08:56 AM.
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Here's a sample of the sound I'm getting (1st with the melodica and voice, then the guitar solo'd)
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Kris, Now that you listened now the reveal, I'm hoping this will surprise you...
That is a piezo run through two ir's, panned hard left and right, then through a little reverb. The IR's are from 3Sigma and are the Cordoba Hauser IR's
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Sounds great. Originally Posted by Alter
IRs are a big money saver, my whole list of Cordoba Hauser irs recorded with different mics, was $10. I spent another $20 on 3Sygma's Impulsive plugin which I didn't really need but it does make for a clean and tidy interface and you can load 2 IRs to get a stereo sound (I could do the same in Reaper duplicating the track and using two of the Reaper IR loaders).
Also, I seem to get an annoying sound of my breathing when I record with a sensitive condenser mic, and then there is the issue of how good is ones room for recording and other noise, (wife is vacuuming right now, and I have an occasional dog barking issue). For me I just use piezo and irs from now on, so easy to record with a piezo which eliminates the room and outside noise. Most of all it sounds really good.
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This not expensive pick up is quite interesting:
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I'd like to explain:
I am looking for a microphone to record a classical guitar solo.
I do not intend to record with other instruments... as Ralph Towner used to talk about, who only uses a microphone to amplify the guitar.
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good for performance as well
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Maybe some additional reading can help on decision making.
Recording the Classical Guitar.
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Ralph has been performing with a Beyerdynamic M160 Ribbon Mic for decades and has added a pickup later on, which he mixes into the signal only for Originally Posted by kris
the tighter bass response/definition. When recording in a studio there'll be up to 4 high-$$$ Neumann mics around his guitar ....
Again, the room you'll be playing/recording in is the most important factor and deserves the most care and preparation.
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I would like to avoid mounting a piezo pick up.
DPA dvote 4099 g looks very interesting.
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I talked to Ralph about Frameworks a few years ago. He praised these guitars a lot, so I bought a Framewors modern classic. The RMC pick up plays a major role in these guitars.Standard classical guitars are very difficult to amplify. Originally Posted by gitman
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It also mounts to an archtop tailpiece nicely: Originally Posted by kris
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As others have said, the acousric qualities of the room where you will be recording are critical. How well it is insulated from external sound is just as important as its own internal acoustics - good sound insulating double glazing is a must if there is regular external noise. Don't forget also the noises coming from other parts of the house, so soundproofing doors, walls, floors and vceilings can be critical in a noisy house.
You then need to look at sound reflections in the room and where you position yourself and the mike(s) to take this into account. Even a few blocks of acoustic panels, well placed can make a massive difference in sound quality.
Happy hunting down this rabbit-hole!
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Even the computer noise becomes a problem if really going for a high quality recording at home. I sometimes end up having a laptop in another room, via a long cable to the sound card.
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Yes ... There are a lot of problems that's a fact.
Perhaps I should look for a good piezo.Piezo works quite well at concerts.
I know this will never replace a good microphone.
I bought an excellent classical guitar a few days ago.
The sound of this guitar is so beautiful and natural.
If you have a very good classical guitar, you can go crazy.
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.. or if you don't!
I have a good friend that's a really great classical/flamenco player. He has a Gerundino, a Conde, a Kohno, etc.. Every time i play them i get depressed, as i could never justify paying that kind of money for a classical... Maybe one day!
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You will be VERY unhappy with any recording made with only the piezo-signal, it will sound totally un-natural Originally Posted by kris
and the special quality of your guitar will NOT be present. Pickups are a compromise and sometimes helpful
IN COMBINATION with a mic on stage - in a recording situation any decent microphone will be far better than the best
pickup.
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The quality of a classical instrument can be completely distorted.What is different about my Frameworks modern classic guitar, in which the mounted RMC piezo fits perfectly with the construction of the guitar.
I have also old A.Sanchez guitar with piezo plus mic inside.When recording with piezo, you can hear that it is a classical guitar ...but my new classical guitar it is a different world.
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I’ve recently tried recording my classical guitar with an old AKG C1000s mic I got years ago, using the XLR connection on my Focusrite interface.
The room I use is pretty small and fairly dead acoustically (bookshelves, carpet, curtains etc.). I just aimed the mic either at the 12th fret or the bridge, from about 15-18 inches away. Then added a small amount of impulse reverb in Reaper. Sounds quite good.
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AKG C1000s is pretty cool and universal. Originally Posted by grahambop
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