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I‘m a tube snob since my first guitar lessons and I‘ve always hated all that mimics and modelers (at least the ones I‘ve tried). But yet I‘ve played the Neuraldsp Tone King plugin and I‘m blown away. It‘s not only sounding like the real Amp- no differences hearable - it FEELS like the real amp.
What do you guys think?
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10-03-2024 06:23 AM
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"Sounding" and "feeling" like a "real amp" are debatable, especially when it comes to individual tolerance of latency. But...
I would say the ToneX platform is really the game changer. They have priced it so aggressively, and have packed it with so many features, that it demonstrates they are determined to own that market. As for sound, they are all pretty much on par with each other.
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…not my kind of tone but it nails what neuraldsp has reached:
And I don‘t admit any latency from the plugin.
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In a world where everything has gone digital I'm clinging to my real amps.
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The Neural DSP Tone King Imperial is what I use. It comes with a plugin that is installed into Logic, but if I just plugin to practice, I use the standalone app. Loving it!
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…the more I play this plugin the more I love it. I don’t miss my tube amps, honestly.
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Download the trial of the Morgan amps plugin and give it a go. There’s a preset called “archtop” or something like that… make a tele sound rather full. Definitely doesn’t turn a tele into something it’s not, but a nice full clean (with slight overdrive… aka Kenny Burrell tone).
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^ Thanks, I‘ve tried the Morgan plugin but like the Toneking much more, just personal taste. I even don‘t need a fatter Tele tone since I mostly play my own Tvcaster guitars (Teletypes). They got a fat and hollow-like tone due to their construction and pickups:
TVcaster „Broadmaster“
I found the cabsim section most interesting to shape your tone, on the other hand it takes time to check all the different microphones, their placements and combinations
The Toneking sounds even great with the cabsim disabled, you‘ll achieve a fantastic attack this way.
My only point of critisism is the „built in“ Reverb. It‘s too subtle and therefore for me not usable, I hope they‘ll fix that in an update.Last edited by Stefan Eff; 11-17-2024 at 07:45 AM.
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Am I missing something? Isn't the sound quality of these plugins also dependent on the quality of interface and speakers you are using?
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I just got the Cory Wong set and I'm really happy with it for clean jazz tones
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There's no way that the simulation could be "better" than your own, ever. Yet, the difference can be so tiny that it doesn't matter at all.
Probably will kill the real amp business. Because the comfort and variety. Which is very sad.
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Sure, but todays interfaces (even budget products) are pretty good. A pair of good (neutral) speakers also won‘t break the bank. I‘ve also bought the Mateus Asato plugin and I‘m blown away. It‘s fantastic.
Originally Posted by stevus
A very important factor is the CPU power and the RAM of your computer, those plugins are hungry.
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It‘s not only comfort and variety. It‘s tone, dynamics and feel. Originally Posted by emanresu
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is this for playing at home only ?
or for playing out ?
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It‘s mainly for recording and playing at home. You can use it also for gigging, but honestly I wouldn‘t use it live this way. Originally Posted by pingu
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I am using the Morgan amp suite. I like the PR12 model which is based on a Princeton amp. Which one IDK. I will say that these amp sims are a rabbit hole however. Endless tweaking of mics and tone. In the end, I think sometimes they take away from the joy of just playing the instrument. I unplug from my DAW, rotate my chair and plug into a Quilter US Superblock and its just different. I don't know why but it just feels more organic even though that too is an amp sim I guess - albeit analogue. I compared the NDSP's PR12 to a free Tonex 57 Tweed and honestly they were both equally great. I was tempted to buy Tonex software which was being sold cheap recently, but couldn't decide if the Dream 65 plugin would be more of what I am looking for and didn't purchase either. The paradox of choice...
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Hello,
I tried the Neural DSP Tone King Imperial MKII and it sounded good to me.
Right now i'm using the UAD Dream 65 plugin and again it's very good !
I have to say that i do not have an amp so i can't compare the sounds.
Also there is the Neural Amp Modeler Open source project, and you can find a lot of free simulation :
Neural Amp Modeler | Highly-accurate free and open-source amp modeling plugin
Discover Neural Amp Modeler (NAM) Profiles and Impulse Responses (IR'''s) * TONE3000
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Originally Posted by Monica.N
Hey Monica - when I tried the Dream plugin, the gain kicked in really early. Are you using a utility to reduce the gain prior to the plugin?
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Hey, i don't use a plugin.
First i control the input via the control on my audio interface,
and second on the plugin the volume button is set under 2.
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I installed the NAM and a few captures. Impressive. Do you find the Dream Plugin has better sound quality than working with captures...?
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Not really,
I got the Dream only because it was on sale at 59$, I think it's still on sale today.
The NAM is very good and do the job !
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So far I agree...tried a few Deluxe reverb captures. Pretty cool.
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Try the Universal Audio Dream or now the Woodrow. I think these are the best for Deluxe and tweed tones. They were released as pedals but have plugin versions now.
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NDSP running 50% off plugins now...
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