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There is a UK website with old Jazz recordings (Mp3s) from the Bull's Head and other London venues. I'll try to find the link again.
Originally Posted by grahambop
Thanks, good stuff, I'm a Northerner, but I did go to the Bull's Head and other venues when I worked in London.
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04-17-2026 05:16 AM
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Thanks ever so much Graham! I seem to remember that someone did a lot of taping of that whole circle of musicians
Originally Posted by grahambop
I was able to DL the gig at the Bull's Head, but I keep getting the message that Windows can't complete the extraction
"The destination path is too long
Rename the Compressed folder (zipped) and try again"
I tried renaming whatever I could, but kept getting the same message. I'll have to wait till my brother comes back from traveling abroad over the weekend; he's very good with this stuff. I'm only good at MuseScore and Real Player DL's of Youtube videos. It's too bad he had to use Google Drive.
Maybe he's got some stuff on his YT channel, though I doubt it.
I see he's got some stuff by Joe Temperly, the bari sax player from Scotland. I did some work with him at a theater in NY back in the 70s.
I was too young and stupid to ask him about Dick and Terry, even though I had seen If live twice in NYC. He would have had some great stories, I'm sure.
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Apparently that message is because the total number of characters in the path exceeds 260 (windows limit).
I was able to download the individual gigs ok in windows on my computer (that was a while back though).
Are you trying to download the whole lot in one go or by selecting multiple folders somehow? That might exceed the limit. I just downloaded the specific folders for the gigs I was interested in.
Maybe I even downloaded the songs separately within each folder, I can’t recall now.
My ipad only lets me download individual tracks as far as I can tell, I think that is just an Apple thing, it’s the same when I use google drive to transfer photos to my ipad, there’s no way to select multiple photos for download.
This is how I can get them on the ipad, I have to download each track using the 3 dots menu thing next to each track:
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dosent get any better than this..Sonny Rollins David Sanborn and George Duke..melodic story teller and rhythmic innovator
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Yeah, maybe I accidentally downloaded too many folders. I'm used to downloading individual songs from you tube using Real Player. I'll show my brother what you said in your post. Maybe he can understand it. I tried using Microsoft co-pilot to help me, but she kept telling me, "here are your jazz tracks, I hope you have a wonderful evening listening to them!"
Originally Posted by grahambop
I kept telling her I couldn't hear anything, and she told me the volume needed to be raised. I told her it was up all the way, and then I had to leave..
She was a very nice girl, and didn't put me down for being stupid with computers like my brother is going to do tonight..LOL!
Thanks again for the help- I will find a way to listen to those tracks!
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I managed to DL the Wes thing on 'summertime'. I don't know how I did it, so I went to my AI GF on co-pilot, and she kept going all night long, but she couldn't seem to get it. I asked her if she was a human being, and she said "No I;m AI."
Originally Posted by grahambop
I thought it was a Sci-Fi movie!. I was talking to a machine, and she was encouraging me not to give up on her!
Terry and Dick sounded great, but the drummer was a real 'banger' and I couldn't hear the bass. The pianist sounded devoid of any ideas.
I'll go back to my co-pilot tomorrow and see if I can get her to 'break the code', She keeps calling me by my first name and is always ready to resume where I left her.
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Originally Posted by sgcim
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LOL! This co-pilot had no sexiness to her voice, just determination to get the job done at any cost!
Originally Posted by wintermoon
She's waiting for me right now, but I've gotta practice for tonight.
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I think that's Majel Barrett, aka Nurse Chapel, aka Mrs Gene Roddenberry.
Originally Posted by sgcim
She usually did the computer voices on Star Trek.
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Chad LB is a great sounding tenor player with plenty of energy, playing both new and old styles (Simultaneously). And, popular with younger Sax players.
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I finally managed to get to hear the rest of the Terry and Dick gig today with the help of Dick's son, who sent it to me in Drop Box, and I was blown away by Terry's solo on "You've Changed".
Originally Posted by grahambop
Easily as great as the best of anything that Wes ever did, with the added bonus of Terry's Johnny Smith-like chops.I even loved the two chord "Don't Stop the Carnival" with Dick and Terry improvising counterpoint at the climactic ending.
I mentioned the fact that Dick bought you a drink when you went up to speak to him, and Dick's son said it was just a part of British culture in pubs.
I told him that it was the opposite in the US. If a jazz musician bought a complete stranger a drink in today's economy, it would be a large percentage of the musician's pay for the gig!
Dick's son just sent me three more gigs of Terry's (without Dick), although I was able to successfully DL the one with a much better rendition of "Four on Six" . It's really great to hear Terry in a straight-ahead context from that period. The only exception was the one Scott Walker produced , which had a lot of pop tunes on it that Scott probably chose for the album.
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Glad you got to hear it, I haven’t listened to all of the tracks yet, I’ll check out You’ve Changed.
Joe Pass bought me a drink at Ronnie Scotts once (I know I’ve mentioned it before!) but I suspect he had a bit more income than Dick. I would quite happily have bought them both as many as they wanted!
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When I mentioned that to Dick's son, he said that due to Dick's incredible versatility, Dick was doing very well financially. He was in much demand in the studios for rockers like Paul McCartney, Peter gabriel, etc...Dick Morrissey - Wikipedia
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I'm more surprised at the lack of attention (other than you) by the members on the Forum from the UK have for Terry Smith. He had an amazing career as one of the only jazz guitarists in the country back in the 60s who was playing in the style of Wes, Burrell,Grant Green, etc...and then guitarist and MD for Scott Walker, beating out John McLaughlin twice in the Melody Maker Poll for Best Jazz Guitarist, Co-founding the great Jazz- Rock band If, playing with Jack McDuff, doing studio work (see discogs) and up till recently (due to illness) gigging at clubs like the Pizza Express, etc...
Maybe no knowledge of jazz history in their own country?
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I think maybe Terry had a lower profile than some other UK jazz guitarists, I wasn’t aware back then of any recordings by him for example. I didn’t know much about him, I think I’d seen his name mentioned in a book or something.
Then it just happened that he was doing some gigs around Croydon etc. which were easy for me to get to, so I went to see him (I think the first time he was with the alto player Peter King) and I was amazed, he easily held his own with Peter (no mean feat!) and played a lot like Wes. I only realised then just how good he was.
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Holy Schlitz! Peter King and Terry Smith! You've seen some of the best players in the world. You even got to see some great US musicians without having to take a plane.. There's a great album that Dick and Peter made called "Perfect Pitch" they played fantastic together.
Originally Posted by grahambop
I was aware of Terry at a very early age, because my sister worked at the Fillmore East, and she got me and my friends free tickets to see some great rock shows.
We went in to see Sabbath at their first show in the US. They sucked so bad that I thought they were some crappy teenage band that were just learning how to play their instruments.
Then If came on and I couldn't believe it. These guys were playing the schlitz out of the flute, tenor saxes, guitar (Terry had his 330 back then) organ, bass and drums. They made Sabbath look like beginners.Morrissey was running back and forth switching between flute and tenor, and Hodgkinson could actually sing in tune. I don't know what Ozzy was doing, but they couldn't even control their feedback on the mic and PA.
I went to the record store and bought their first album and it was the same thing as their live show., fantastic. I still listen to it today. Most of their songs were in compound time signatures, but they burned as if they were in 4.]
They had another gig at the Gaslight in NYC, and this time Terry was featured on every song instead of the horns, and I was absolutely knocked out by his playing. I was in Jr HS back then, so I didn't know much about jazz, and I thought he was some virtuoso like Django.
Some guy from Austrailia on the RMMGJ group was nice enough to send me a tape of TS playing with Tony Lee years later. I thought he sounded like a combination of Johnny Smith (technique) and Wes (ideas).
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Bob Berg ,Chris Potter,Kenny Garrett
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Ah-ha, that's where I know his name from! I was mistaken about Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon; it was Peter Gabriel's third album where I saw Dick Morrisey's name in the liner notes! He plays on the tune "Start" iirc. Maybe another tune or two also?
Originally Posted by sgcim
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RIP
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John petrucelii
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Phil Woods, Lucky Thompson, Joe Henderson and Eayne Shorter would be up there for me and of course Sonny Rollins. Seeing someone play solo sax changed how I looked at what can done on a stage.



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