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07-09-2021 04:08 PM
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Zoller is one of those names that I heard of frequently but somehow never really seriously listened to. Went to youtube and was happily surprised to find this wonderful 1-hour concert featuring him and Jim Hall (who apparently was one of Zoller's teachers).
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There’s also a good video of Zoller and Jimmy Raney:
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07-10-2021, 06:24 PM #4joelf Guest
Good news. Great guy, underrated player...
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07-10-2021, 06:28 PM #5joelf Guest
Originally Posted by grahambop
Some of that show ended up in a 2 CD set, Jimmy & Me...
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Yup great guy! We met Atilla a couple of times when Tal played Zinno’s (13 St). He was
great player and what a cool gentleman!
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It was a wild experience taking group lessons for free from Atilla in the city, as part of the Jazz Interactions Program back in the 70s.
The poor guy had to deal with a ton of rockers, along with little HS punks like me who thought they knew how to play jazz.
Atilla straightened me out right away by making me play in position, rather than jumping all over the fingerboard to cram in my little Kenny Burrell licks whenever I could.
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07-15-2021, 11:50 PM #8joelf Guest
He was going out and listening to the end. I saw him 2 weeks before he died, in front of Arturo's. We hugged. His face was gaunt and leathery, but he was gonna be in music long as he had breath.
I loved him...
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That is great news!
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Originally Posted by grahambop
And Zoller’s tone in the first video is way too trebly to my taste (Jim Hall’s tone is great!)
Oh boy, I am obviously in a hard to please mood today……
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Yeah I’m more of a Raney fan than Zoller, but that video is one of the very few good quality films of Raney playing, that I know of. So I’m quite fond of it!
(It also helps to know the tune they are playing is really ‘I Love You’, it certainly sounds like it to me!)Last edited by grahambop; 08-10-2021 at 05:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by sgcim
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
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08-11-2021, 10:48 PM #15joelf Guest
Originally Posted by Little Jay
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08-11-2021, 11:06 PM #16joelf Guest
Jimmy's time is SO perfect. He's known for those beautiful melodic lines, but---like every truly great player---his secret weapon is time. Beautiful, subtle touch too.
Attila has at times sounded daunted and intimidated by Jimmy. I know he idolized him. But on this we only hear collegial joy.
2 person contrapuntal improvising is tricky. The temptation is to mimic the other player's last phrase, but that takes the counter out of counterpoint. This performance had some nice, subtle moments, especially toward the end when they 'listened louder' and really bore down. It takes even players on this level a good few minutes to calm down, filter out mind 'noise', and really intently listen. They started out 'talking' over each other a bit, but it's a dicey and nervy proposition any way you slice it. But the trading led to more focused interplay and Jimmy had to get the soloing out of his system. And why not? He was one of the 5 percentile improvisers.
It helped that their tones are different, and that Attila was a bit bluesier and aggressive on this. It worked.
I'm sorry Jimmy & Jim Hall never recorded as a duet. The contrast and Hall's amazing listening and sensitivity would have really been something to hear. And Jimmy LOVED Jim---told me he was his favorite guitarist...
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Originally Posted by joelf
(But Jimmy Raney’s tone is great as well!)
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Originally Posted by garybaldy
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
Thoughts on triplet-swing.
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