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But he's not a bad classical player for his age. That would be fair.
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01-08-2019 12:29 AM
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I had never heard of Antoine, so thanks for that. Very inspiring young player.
I don't recall a player with both classical (real classical) right hand AND competent Gypsy jazz playing, legit in both styles/disciplines.
I was thinking that he was not nearly as harmonically sophisticated as Joe after listening to his Gypsy video, then saw his more contemporary arrangements. Wow, much different story. It sounds like he's been listening to Frisell, among others. Lots of ambient aesthetics combined with contrapuntal expressiveness.
But - I don't think that a comparison to Joe Pass really makes much sense. He's not going for the same thing at all, and if he would he would have a long way to go, but could probably get there.
Given the market demand and tastes in 2019, his more contemporary leanings would seem to be a wiser choice indeed.
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This is the real deal. I like the big tyre myself :-)
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Originally Posted by Jazzstdnt
This isn't bad (but he's still very much a classical player).
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Compare and contrast...
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
Besides that, I'm gonna say very sacrilegious thing here, but ES175WithHumbuckersAndFlatwoundStringsIntoPolytone is the most outdated and (to me) boring jazz tone ever. Ha, I had to get that of my chest!
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Guitar is dead and lives only in the memories of baby boomers and a few gen-x'ers ... I don't mind tho
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Good thing we are musicians, Lawson, and not accountants. If you're an accountant, it either adds up to $27,504.22 or it doesn't. The sound you love is the sound you love and no one can tell you it doesn't add up. We react as we react and the world of all art is made better for the diversity of feeling within.
I'm supposed to love the music of Billie Holiday and Bob Dylan. Both of them are like chalk on a blackboard to my ear - and don't get me started on Joan Baez! A thousand posters can tell me why I'm wrong but I will shrug it off with my soul and personal taste completely shiny and intact.
Let me say also that I've read many of your reminiscences about Joe's music and your personal relationship with him and have always found them interesting and insightful. So let's engage in fair musical criticism but not take it all too seriously because we are all right and we are all wrong! Via la difference.
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Originally Posted by AndyV
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Maybe I need a break. You just panned the sound that has haunted me all my life
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I think the more appropriate way for these things is for one to just say "I prefer so and so's play to so and so" instead of this player is BETTER than that player
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Originally Posted by voxss
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i did once dream of that set up..ES175WithHumbuckersAndFlatwoundStringsIntoPolytone ....finances wouldnt allow so i have a peerless Monarch and a Roland microcube...kitchen player not a bedroom one..warmer here....lol
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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The 175 into Polytone thing is kinda hit or miss for me. There's records of Joe playing live where I love it, the room supplies a nice natural reverb...it's not like the Joy Spring/Intercontinental type sound, which is almost surely a tube amp (and imho, ranks up there with the best clean electric jazz tones ever) but it's really good.
On some of the studio recordings though, it's just too dry and "brittle" almost ("Eximous," for example)
None of that is Joe's fault though, I think. Those records were made pretty quickly with a pretty low budget. And the playing is still stellar. But I do find the tone off putting enough to where I don't listen to those records as often--and I honestly think if it were a lesser player like, I dunno...Jeff Matz, for example-- I wouldn't listen at all
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I still love the ES175WithHumbuckersAndFlatwoundStringsIntoPolytone sound right alongside the WithL5cesWithHumbuckersAndFlatwoundStringsIntoPoly tone sound best. But the other sounds, processing, effects, Metheny, Scofield, are great too. I enjoy them, learn from them, feel no need to diss them. It's not how I hope to play, but in a Faustian bargain if I were told I could play like Scofield but I would have to surrender my ES175 and Polytone, I'm making that deal yesterday!
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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WES smokes. i wouldnt say Joe Smokes..just an elegance in his playing...im just playing his For Django transcription original with John Pisano underpinning Joes Es 175 .............did i just hear Saen Saens Dance MAcabre..Faust ...midnight dance
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
I do not favor that tone, but by all means, do not stop pursuing it if that's what you love! Why would you! Tone is so subjective. And playing wise, lets just say I use JP licks all the time, he's a giant obviously.
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Originally Posted by voxss
He also swings, laughs, smirks, grimaces, rolls his eyes, parodies himself, and seems to have fun playing.
And I think he smokes.
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What a cathartic thread! Let it all out!
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