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Jazz Articles: Stanley Jordan: ?My Spirit Transcends Gender? - By David R. Adler ? Jazz Articles
What do you all think of Stanley Jordan? Does your appearance have any effect on how people receive your music?
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01-21-2016 01:22 PM
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I'm not exactly sure how dress on any given day effects the way people receive me musically, but it for sure would not effect how I received Stanley Jordan musically. I would be too focused on his music and unique technical style.
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I guess jazz is not really a genre that has a "look" per se. Compared to rock n roll, for example.
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Why should it matter at all?
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It's a much better world because most people don't look like me . . . and that sure does go for the way I dress too!
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The only thing that bugs me about that article is the reference to Gödel's Completeness Theorem. Surely they mean his more famous Incompleteness Theorem.
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Yes your appearance can affect how others receive your music. That's just how the brain is wired.
God wires us that way for a reason. ;-)
http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/if-...ys-he-wo-11500Last edited by KirkP; 01-21-2016 at 04:59 PM.
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My appearance, or someone else's?
What exactly is this thread getting at, really?
Seems like Stanley puts some thought into his appearance...certainly lives by the "dress a step above your audience" rule...
Or are we hinting at something else, without saying it?
Stanley's a special case, too, mind you. He could appear in a meat suit a la Gaga and his technique would still be the most interesting thing
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The thread is about exactly what it asked: Appearance - be it a dress, suit, leather pants, whatever. Jordan in the article even talked about being chided by Jo Jones for not wearing a suit at a point in time. Performers take time out to select garb to perform in. My question related to how the listeners receive that choice because it obviously matters enough for the performer to choose it specifically.
Obviously, wearing women's clothing is not typical (though he's certainly not the first musician to dress like that) and that is why this got my attention. The subject applies, however, to any type of stage outfit or other performer such as Gaga as you mentioned.Last edited by Frogga; 01-21-2016 at 05:27 PM.
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It's not something that would get my panties all in a bunch.
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Well, at least the earrings match nicely....
But seriously, isn't Stanley a graduate of Princeton or something?
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He considers his appearance to be part of his art, but he also feels it expresses his nature. I've got no problem with that.
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That reminds me of an outfit someone would have worn in the 70's.
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Reminds me of something that could have been worn on an Earth Wind And Fire album cover.
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The latest in "nudie" suits?
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so he's basically a trans person I guess? his hair certainly looked different the last time i saw him. the short cut was gone in favor of an unambiguously feminine style.
does it matter? his choices or orientation don't matter to me at all, but they sure as heck matter to him.
if it doesn't matter, why are he and the interviewer going out of their way to talk about it? why isn't he just talking about tunes, guitars strings, amps and pedals eh?
of course it matters.
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Well pertaining to the OP the article states the following:
Interviewer: I noticed some ignorant comments on YouTube videos and such.
SJ--Yes, but usually when I’ve seen negative comments it was when my look was off, or I was having a bad hair day or something.
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not w/o precedent (sorta):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Tipton
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Anybody else chafe really easily? Just me?
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Originally Posted by srlank
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
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The Crying Game was 1992.......
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Congratulations to Stanley for having the courage to come out and be his authentic self. I've admired his artistry for a long time. Now I admire his courage as a person to stay true to himself. To not be controlled by the IGNORANT bigoted views of others.
In the US our Supreme Court finally had to legalize gay marriage. We have anti-discrimination laws on the books saying you can't discriminate based on race, gender, religion, or no religion, and sexual orientation. There's no way the Supreme Court could continue to uphold gay marriage bans and be consistent with those civil rights laws. Further the US Constitution says there shall be a separation of church and state. And that the US government shall pass nolaw respecting any religion. Since basically the notion that homosexuality is "bad" comes from religion the Supreme Court was correct in making gay marriage legal. Kudos to the Supreme Court. Religious people have to stop thinking they have the right to force their beliefs on others. Even the conservatives on the court finally had to relent realizing that a gay marriage ban was just a religious belief being forced on US citizens and that is unconstitutional/illegal.
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I don't think real music and guitar fans care about the look. Non-musicians pay a lot of attention to it though.
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