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Originally Posted by Stevebol
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10-25-2014 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ah.clem
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Originally Posted by ah.clem
My favorite jazz musician ever and nicest guy you'll ever meet.
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
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I've read it a few places, heard a less nasty version from Al, and read it in a transcript of a video interview he gave to Monk Rowe in Buffalo NY in 2002, the year he died (I think he passed in 2002). It is a much more polite version (Al's), but knowing the man for so long I have no reason to disbelieve him. He didn't talk smack about players; he mentions the incident very politely in the interview. Frankly, I have no reason to doubt it; it was hard to get him to talk about any of the players he worked with, good or bad, so I think the whole thing left him feeling kinda badly for him to mention it, all those years later.
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Originally Posted by Stevebol
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Originally Posted by ah.clem
Last edited by Stevebol; 10-26-2014 at 12:20 AM.
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There's a Youtube of him playing when he was 80 or 81, but mostly it's like listening to a shadow; you can hear what a player he used to be. But hell, if I can hold my guitar when I'm 80, I'll be a happy man!
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I have a very hard ti believing that story. Perceptions of events are very subjective. Oscar Peterson was so intimidated by Tatum that when Oscar was playing and showing off in a club and Tatum walked in OP jumped up and apologized for playing the piano. Tatum was by all accounts a very sweet man. If he refused to talk to him again maybe there was some other perceived snub.
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Maybe we can start an Al Tinney thread so we can get back to the original topic...or not...
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Frankly, I don't care what people believe either way. I didn't know Tatum, I knew Tinney. There are always stories, but I'll go with what I've actually heard, both the playing and from the source.
Sorry for the thread hijack Cosmic. You are right, and I look forward to more insightful commentary about jazz cover bands, the total hipness of the "new" jazz players who have no idea what standards are or how to play over them and the pigeonholing of older players as the dottering "old guard" that don't seem to have a clue in the 21st century. Oh, and the jazz/classical thing again.
The Mingus jokes we quite funny, though. Seriously, I like that kind of humor.
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Wonder what Miles would have said about MOPDTK 'Blue'?
I would hazard a guess, but I don't want to be thrown off the forum for obscene language!
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Well Mingus was my cousin. I don't appreciate those jokes at all.
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Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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Originally Posted by ah.clem
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Originally Posted by ah.clem
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I'm not denigrating the man. I don't know him. But you're trying to say that the man who Arthur Rubinstein, widely regarded as the greatest pianist of all time, called Art Tatum the greatest pianist he's ever heard. I doubt that ANYONE would have "cut him so badly" Tatum would have refused to ever acknowledge him. It just sounds like an urban legend. I have no doubt Al could play. No disrespect intended.
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Mingus didn't take to bullshit. In reality he was a very gentle man but he had a zero threshold for bullshit, and he could smell it miles away.
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
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Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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Some of those fits of violence aren't as well documented as you might imagine. It does make good copy though. And he knew this.
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I'm going to take my own advice- do your own thing. If people want to do a tribute thing or whatever it is who am I to judge.
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Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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No, but I played with members of his last band. He was pretty sick at the time I was living with him. ALS. Wheelchair. But he taught me a bunch of stuff. He'd have me get my guitar and he'd show me.
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That must have been a great experience to spend time learning from one of the great jazz composers.
naming chords?
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