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Religious cult? Geez, I was going to let that one go. Why would you even say that? More passive aggressive hostility. Nice playing from that Roland guy too. I don't think there's much improv there though. But great playing and concepts.
Jazz is ABOUT improvisation. That's the value I take from it. Being able to play things off the top, more or less, with training, of your head. It requires a LOT of different kinds of training and awareness, - at least it has for me. CULT??? I've never even insinuated such a thing.
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08-31-2014 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by targuit
I look forward to hearing you in either case. But it's all about improv. That's how you know whether it's brain surgery or not.
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Originally Posted by targuit
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Originally Posted by targuit
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Originally Posted by targuit
check out the maestro's performance of his piece Fuoco (means fire), and then compare it to that of brilliant young Russian virtuoso Konstantin Okudzhava. nothing new here of course. this is the age old phenomena of a composer who is a good performer, vs. a non-composer instrumental virtuoso.
https://guitar.mymusictalk.com/video...i#.VANTAfldVikLast edited by fumblefingers; 08-31-2014 at 12:57 PM.
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A modest contrition - I perhaps sounded a little aggressive regarding hanging with you, Henry, but after all I am a pretty fluent reader, player, and I compose a bit, too. In addition to being a physician, which tends to command a lot of your attention. Anyway, I just came down from my recording setup actually to retract that part - it sounds 'too confident' on the nice side and a bit 'snide' on the bad side. I'm having that kind of day and I have to be somewhere late this afternoon, so I'm trying to get the job done. Pardon my effusive self confidence. Anyway, time to record.
Fumble, I actually like Roland's style because I'm not as interested in a 'technical' masterpiece as I am in the heart and the soul. What speaks to me emotionally first, intellectually second. Anyway, when I have a free moment, I want to listen to that other gent's performance you mention.
Jay
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Originally Posted by targuit
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Originally Posted by targuit
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Finally made time to watch the whole video great hearing Herbie talk about lessons learned from Miles. A lot of good nuggest of insight from Herbie. I hope the his other lectures make it to Youtube.
Now I got to work on leaving out the Butter Notes. And loved him talking how Miles made Herbie flubbed chord work. As Miles said there are no mistakes only opportunities. Of course someone asked Miles about some other player once and Miles said.... he's badder than a broke dick dog. No one is sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Thanks for posting the link.Last edited by docbop; 08-31-2014 at 06:41 PM.
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Originally Posted by henryrobinett
The criteria for what constitutes classical guitar may not be as fixed as some would believe; its certainly not as well delineated as it was at one point. These three guitarists have become familiar enough with the canon and the kinesthetics of the classic genre to show more than a passing familiarity.
Not to bring this thread back to Herbie too soon, but one thing I like about modern jazz, in some circles at least, the spirit of exploration has superceded any fixed superficial rules of what jazz should be. If it contributes to the growth of art, and it's offering a technique in the service of the music, it doesn't matter where it came from.
People find membership in a club through talk, some by action. I happen to like these guys as examples of exploring players. The players say all they need to say with the music.
David
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I dunno, most of the serious classical guys I met in college were worse readers than the same level jazz guys... Your mileage may vary
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Monder is a MFer. I haven't heard the clips yet. Just saying.
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Originally Posted by OPherman47
In music school sometimes got messy with the classical musician that could read anything and the street/ear players who couldn't read note, but could play the hell out of anything. Sad part is many of the ear players would quit out of frustration because they could play, but were in low level classes because they couldn't read and didn't know theory.
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Originally Posted by henryrobinett
Last edited by cosmic gumbo; 09-02-2014 at 02:47 AM.
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Sylvain's just too good
I'd like to know his story...I dunno why, but I have a hunch that picking hand is less "classically trained" and more "I picked up the guitar and played with my fingers and I've done it ever since."
There's lots of little things about his style that suggest to me he's worked out his own unique style, solving problems as he went, over the course of many years. But I could be wrong
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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