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none, zero, ziltch
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05-11-2015 04:22 PM
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nada, don't waste your time
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I think the Barney Kessel combover is a big hit with the ladies...
Seriously, I would say Wes and George Benson. And Earl Klugh.
Put on the Breezin' album by George. Ain't nobody don't like that album.
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Originally Posted by eccegeorge
But she really likes Grant Green.
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Bear in mind, nobody here is 'normal'.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
Wes and Charlie and George have many fans who don't play guitar or even care especially about the guitar: they just like that music.
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Grant Green, Kenny Burrell and Wes are always safe bets. I'll throw on the modern cats like Christian Scott, Nir Felder and Rosenwinkel for my friends who are into bands like Radiohead etc.
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GB
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I know some people who like Wes Mongomery
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Originally Posted by Jazzpunk
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Caught my 14-yr-old daughter listening to Django on her phone the other day. Kind of shocked.
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I wonder if any "normal" like jazz...:-)?
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All that matters these days is what the world thinks of your music video.
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Originally Posted by Stevebol
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^^^
If you can't dance, green-screen.
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Django's probably the most famous jazz guitarist of all time.
My wife loves Bill Frisell.
I would invite anyone to a Jim Mullen gig.
This is the kind of quality I would like to cultivate in my own music - not to pander to an audience but to create music that communicates.
I do think that the modern music scene has tended towards atomisation in the audience. Instrumental music is such a niche market it threatens to be primarily about guitarists listening to guitar players, drummers listening to drummers. A lot of the current contemporary jazz guitar stars have kind of been painted into that corner - even a lot of jazz musicians (non guitar) I work with have no idea who Lage Lund is.
I have always been inspired by artists that communicate to a wide public without feeling they have to pander to them... It's a good trick! :-)
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Originally Posted by 3625
It's really hard to learn how to swing now. It's been consuming obsession for years but I still struggle, because you can't learn that stuff from a book, or a jazz course....
I would say it is now much easier to learn how to play 'straight 8's' tunes in 7 then it is to learn how to play a '4/4' swing feel with all the rhythmic richness of a master jazz musician.
(Of course, that's not to say 7 is inherently intellectual - can you play 7 with all the rhythmic richness of a master Balkan musician? Anyway I happen to like 7, that's not the point :-))
Seems like many jazz guitar players basically give up and work on complexity instead, which puts them into the glasshouse of the 'jazz guitar community'.Last edited by christianm77; 05-14-2015 at 06:30 PM.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Got nothing against complexity, after all I play bop - but modern jazzers these days to me, particularly guitarists, no longer have their chakras connected to their bollocks like in the days of yore.
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well, many of them are not trying to swing. they've moved on to something else.
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
It's not our fault. We are educationally disadvantaged, in a sense ;-) Also, the talent pool for jazz musicians was somewhat wider back then....
There are also other ways to swing so to speak, and jazz has latched onto these - Brazilian and Cuban music of course, also West African, North African, Balkan and many other types of world music has fused with jazz over the past few years.
This might seem harsh or even offensive, but that's not the intention. Actually I agree with what a lot of people say here when they say music has changed. Of course! And I don't believe that just because you don't play guitar exactly like Wes you can't address a wide audience.Last edited by christianm77; 05-15-2015 at 07:23 AM. Reason: For length
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BTW - if anyone can share video of some current players who can swing like Grant Green or Wes, PLEASE share!
Last edited by christianm77; 05-15-2015 at 07:23 AM.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Quite happy to just go on working on those (impossible) things for the rest of my life! Not sure I'll ever get round to playing Rosenwinkel tunes in 7/8 or whatever. Not that I don't appreciate that stuff, just that it's not my priority.
I know what you mean about swing. I was lucky to see most of the big American jazz 'names' from about 1980 to 2000, either at Ronnie Scotts or the Bass Clef/Tenor Clef. We used to go up there nearly every week sometimes.
The thing that struck me about all of them was (a) they all had a truly wonderful, big, warm sound on their instrument, I mean everybody, whether horns, guitar, bass, drums, piano, whatever; (b) they all had that amazing swing and groove that just makes the whole room feel good.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by grahambop
(N-ishGD) - Schorr The Owl The Owl 7-string
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