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I spent my youth listening to Joe Pass, (starting with Catch Me) and at 58 still keep listening to him regularly. My secondguitar method, after Baker’s I and II, was the first edition of ”Joe Pass Guitar Style”, a mind opener for me. I have all his books, including thefirst transcriptions published in “Jazz Guitar Solos”, plus his videos and most of his discography invynil and CD. One of my favorite listening is “Tudo Bem”, in particular his renditions of Wave and Vocé.There are so many others I like: For Django, Live at Donte’s, At Salle Pleyel with OscarPeterson, Blues for Two with Zoot Sims,Ira George & Joe, I Remember CharlieParker, his memorable duet with Pisano, etc. But it was the Virtuoso series, allthat solo work playing bass lines, melody and chords simultaneously, that convinced me of his uniqueness, genius,ability and exquisite talent. I have aprofound respect and appreciation for this giant of the guitar. So I wouldn’tdare to rank him: he was one of a kind.
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04-25-2011 10:12 PM
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I'd like to weigh in here if I may....
I am currently (and coincidentally) re-visiting (or maybe re-re-visiting!) Joe Pass, as I'm wanting to improve my solo guitar ability. I had studied some Pass material earlier on when I was trying to grok jazz and I agree with Jack that JP is one of the greats and should be studied.
If I hear a JP recording, I will dig it and I will smile.
But -
There are other jazz guitarists who's music makes my hair stand up and I feel it more in my body - first one that comes to mind is Wes.
It all comes down to delivery for me, because god knows you can teach a monkey about note choice. And this is a highly personal thing, even though I still wrestle with whether or not there is an objective qualitative measurement for time-feel.....devil on my shoulder says, "Hell yes!"
For me, there is nothing wrong with JP's delivery, but there are just other jazz guitarists who's delivery move me more.
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
OK, can anyone here play on this level?
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Another "tasty" Joe Pass album I can highly recommend is "Joe Pass in Hamburg," recorded with a big band orchestra in Germany at the end of his career.
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We all know that drugs don't make for one's playing to necessarily be any more emotionally charged, otherwise JP would be more compelling in that regard (to some) than clean-cut, tea totalling Wes.
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
Last edited by jzucker; 04-26-2011 at 08:00 AM.
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Quelle canule!
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Originally Posted by paynow
Music critics have opinions and may not play.
Film critics can't act.
Most restaurant critics can't cook.
It's a non-argument.
BTW I did mention some hip clarinetists, so that's not where I'm coming from, but the "I don't care for the style of that car", "OK let's see you build a better one", argument just doesn't hold water.
And I did forget Buddy DeFranco. Good one.Last edited by Flyin' Brian; 04-26-2011 at 09:53 AM.
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
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Originally Posted by paynow
chain smoker for years, right?
i don't know why he wouldn't have slept after he didn't need the factory gig anymore. but what do i know.
is there a biography for him anywhere? i looked and couldn't find one. sure would like to know more about his story, background, survivors etc..
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
EDIT:
OK. Here it is, an NPR jazz profiles thing:
Part One:
Part Two:
Part Three:
Part Four:Last edited by paynow; 04-26-2011 at 08:48 PM. Reason: Adding links
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wes' nephew was an actor on the star trek next generation series. He was trying to get funding for a wes montgomery biography movie but nobody was interested. He was going to play Wes in the movie./
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Originally Posted by jzucker
ANTHONYMONTGOMERY.COM
If you click the link on the top that says "The Artist", then scroll to the bottom of that page, there is a link to his take on Wes.
Guitarist Tony MacAlpine, played Wes in that movie about Hank Garland, "Crazy":
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1747780/Last edited by paynow; 04-26-2011 at 09:04 PM. Reason: Adding link
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here's an excerpt from barnes/kress
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Originally Posted by Metal Fingers
To be fair, even the great Wes can be heard over cooking things a little in some of those live dates in Europe '65... although it would have been pretty hard to have not been excited with guys like Johnny Griffin up there with him...
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Originally Posted by paynow
thanks for posting that!
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
George Benson better than Wes Montgomery
Originally Posted by fumblefingersLast edited by paynow; 04-27-2011 at 09:32 AM.
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Originally Posted by paynow
By the way, did you listen to the Kress/Barnes clip I posted?
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Originally Posted by jzucker
Yes, I did listen: awesome! What is that from? I feel like an idiot because I never knew they played together.
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Originally Posted by paynow
Barnes/Kress: Guitars Anyone?/Swing Guitars: CD Music Details: ImportCds.com
I agree that they sound kind of corny but I love the CD cover.
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